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Old 09-30-2013, 00:20   #1
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I joined and introduced myself this past April. Other than a few posts asking for help with the testing process (thanks to the helpful responses, I've got that down now), I've mostly lurked since then. Although I haven't participated much, I have made forays into the LCHF WOE (limiting myself to 80 g of carbs per day but usually staying under 50). Despite imperfect adherence, I've managed to lose 15-20 pounds, and my A1C has gone from 5.8 (February 2013) to 5.4 (several days ago).

Blood lipids over the same period:
Total cholesterol - 245 (from 172)
HDL - 135 (from 82)
LDL - 90 (from 65) (have not checked particle size)
Triglycerides - 82 (from 126)


I actually wasn't going to have the A1C done for another month, but something brought me into the Dr's office early - I've apparently managed the feat of producing gallstones despite having had my gallbladder out two years ago (I'm told it's rare but not unheard of). I'm having an endoscopic procedure this week (the acronym is ERCP) to remove the stones and widen my common bile duct. Has anybody on here been through this? Thankfully, the absence of a gallbladder has not interfered with my ability to do LCHF, at least not the amounts of fat I've been eating (about 70% of calories on average, I think). I suspect that if anyone thinks to mention diet at all after this procedure (to minimize future stone formation), the advice will involve low-fat, etc. I'm interested in hearing what other people's experiences (if any) have been with gallstones (with or without a gallbladder) and LCHF - did this WOE make them better or worse?

I plan to start posting more frequently. Thanks for being here.

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Now THAT is the sign of an overachiever, producing gall stones with no gall bladder. Welcome back, I'm so glad you're going to be posting more!

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Welcome back. Wow, gallstones w/o a gall bladder. How annoying to have to have surgery, again, for these.

My ability to digest fats has been limited without my gall bladder, but didn't cause me excessive problems until I increased my fat intake recently - which caused extreme diarrhea. After dinkering around with this and that (no help from the doctor except for a drug to stop the d.) - I took the advice of someone on this forum to take bile salts. That cleared up the problem immediately.

As long as I take a capsule of ox bile with my meals, I'm able to digest the fats. When I reported this to my doctor she took note of it - she'd never heard of bile salts before. (But she had heard of that expensive pharmaceutical product.)

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I had the common bile duct "roto router" procedure before my gallbladder was removed. No biggie - no soreness, no nothing.

Only weird thing was, somehow, while I was still loopy in the recovery room, I decided that there were hobbits traipsing around the recovery room. Laying there on the gurney, I hear a voice say they were here to take me back to my room. Then the same voice says "Hobbits?" And the nurse answers "yep - she's been talking about hobbits". I had no idea I'd been talking out loud!

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Welcome back, Suzanne! Your numbers are stellar and it's good to hear we'll be seeing you more often.

Sorry about the dumb gallstones though . . . doen't that beat all? That's one problem I've never encountered, so I guess I'll sit here & knock wood while the rest of you discuss it.

And I have to thank you for the courtesy of looking up your introduction for us . . . what a nice extra.




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I had the common bile duct "roto router" procedure before my gallbladder was removed. No biggie - no soreness, no nothing.

Only weird thing was, somehow, while I was still loopy in the recovery room, I decided that there were hobbits traipsing around the recovery room. Laying there on the gurney, I hear a voice say they were here to take me back to my room. Then the same voice says "Hobbits?" And the nurse answers "yep - she's been talking about hobbits". I had no idea I'd been talking out loud!
Hmmm....I'll keep an eye out for hobbits - although since I haven't read Lord of the Rings, they'll probably look like something else to me.

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I had my gallbladder removed when I was in my forties. Have to say that even with the huge increase of fats in my diet I haven't had any worries.

Hope this is quickly and painlessly resolved. All the best. Freya

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Hello, from a fellow "lurker". How bizarre is this? We just found out that my husband needs to get his gall bladder removed and one of our employees just had hers removed 3 weeks ago. My husband wants to delay the procedure because the employee is having the diarrhea issue. I am going to tell her about that supplement! VeeJay, is that ox bile found in health food stores? Do you take it before meals or just once a day? If it works, maybe I will convince my hubby to get it done. Don't want him to go through another attack! Boy, the tidbits you pick up on these threads is terrific!

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I take a capsule of ox bile with every meal so it can work on the fats I'm eating. If I eat a lot and have the over-full feeling, I take another one (per advice from my nutrition expert).

I get mine at a health-food store - and you can find them on-line and even on Amazon I think. Search for "bile salts" as well as "ox bile".

If your husband's employee improves with the bile salts and he learns of the improvement, then he'll be more likely to have the surgery. Those attacks are wicked. I bet he thinks its a "catch 22" - pain vs bad diarrhea.

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Welcome back SPB! You've done a great job, thanks for updating us!

I haven't had any gall bladder issues so can't relate there, I hope you can get it corrected quickly and as painlessly as possible.

Now on the hobbits..... I had a double mastectomy in August of this year. My night in the hospital was filled with the machines that surrounded me talking to me and moving towards me menacingly with glaring red lights!! I swear I kept hitting the buzzer and was told someone would be right there....no one ever came. It was all part of the hallucination!! Drugs and probably the anesthesia too! How they can mess with your mind!!

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