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"I know, but ... this is not Diabetes."


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Old 10-03-2013, 14:59   #1
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Default "I know, but ... this is not Diabetes."

HOW many times have I heard this?

Parents, treating kids for (unmeasured) hypoglycemia, is my latest.

"Weekend warrior" adult athletes, who adopt a HC vegan diet, b/c it is purer, and insist that including substances such as "complex carbs" or BEER is healthy for THEM, because "They are not US."

I am sure these groups are convinced I am crazy, but hey, I am the one holding a meter, KWIM?

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They'll be convinced they're right until that moment where they are holding their own meter.

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Yep - excuses excuses, all the eternal excuses.




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I think the carbs could very well be fine for them. I think the people not prone to diabetes are just able to process large amounts of carbs better. Kind of like how most people are lactose intolerant except for europeans and arabs that that developed a mutation to allow them to process milk sugars.

The issue isn't they are more carb tolerant. The issue is that world dietary guidelines are set based around assuming that the entire population is both carb and lactose tolerant when that clearly isn't the case.

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Segfault, I am betting 1 in 9 or so will NOT be fine, eventually.

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Foxl, diabetes rates are running about 11-12% of the country depending on gender. I don't think that 85% of the country are following a lo-carb way of eating. While obesity rates are going up (matching added sugar levels in food my guess) they are only up to 35% in adults. There are simply a large number of people walking around in this country that can handle the high carb / high sugar American diet just fine. Even most of the ones that pack on weight don't eventually develop diabetes.

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Sorry, misread your post. Yeah the 1 in 9 sounds about right. But to be honest those people would probably already know. I don't know about you but I pretty much have the full metabolic syndrome bingo card filled out with the type 2 diabetes diagnosis pretty much being the last item on the list. So the diagnosis wasn't really a surprise.

While to me its obvious the official dietary recommendation of high carb / low fat being good for everyone is obviously not true I think the problematic part is the "for everyone" recommendation. I think that anyone that starts to put on pounds while eating lots of carbs, especially around the waist, should look at limiting carbs in their diet. Those are the people that might be looking at a future diabetes diagnosis.

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And until some authoritative body actually admits that it's high carbs that are putting pounds on their collective waists, and then campaigns to educate the public on this score, people don't know and can hardly be expected to know that this is a primary symptom of what can be a disasterous disorder. And educating people about the multiple symptoms grains can cause may very well encompass most of the population - crohns, celiac, IBS and GERD are only the tip of the iceberg, let alone diabetes.




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Yes. When a person suffers symptoms, and looks for answers, only to be told -- repeatedly and most authoritatively -- to dump fats and base his/her diet on multigrains and lots of fruit, that person's been shoved into a world of hurt not of their own making.

We all have varying degrees of carb tolerance, even among diabetics. Same is true for other conditions and food types as well. It's the "all must fit one size" decrees that wreak havoc.

(That said, I firmly believe that carb- and gluten-intolerance are far more common than current statistics would tend to show. It's just not the most rewarding field of inquiry, though it may be among the most important.)

(That, plus the gap between being tolerant of a food or substance, and thriving on it, can be vast.)

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