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Old 10-31-2013, 06:12   #1
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Dr. Bernstein mentioned this in his webcast this evening, and promised to cover in more detail on his November 27 webcast.

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Old 10-31-2013, 06:28   #2
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Oh, great! We can stop having "diabetes" and go back to just having metabolic syndrome. Hyperinsulinemia here we come.

IMO, they are SOOOO on the wrong track. They're looking at T2 as a problem of insufficient beta cells/insulin production. That's not what it is. That is a symptom or consequence which comes along 5 - 10 years after the problem began. I want less insulin, not more. It was a lot of insulin which caused all the progression - muscle IR, liver IR, etc. - for all of those years before serum glucose ever went out of range.

This was especially laughable:

Type 2 diabetes, a disease associated with the national obesity epidemic, is usually caused by a combination of excess weight and lack of exercise.
Seriously? Those are not "causes" but other SYMPTOMS of the same syndrome. Causes would be more like a HUGE inundation of glucose from diet, too much fructose, too much omega-6 PUFAs (contributing to system-wide inflammation) and too little other fats, leading to seeking needed energy from the aforementioned inflammatory and glucose-loaded foods.

I don't want more insulin, I want LESS. I'm a T2.
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This was especially laughable:
Type 2 diabetes, a disease associated with the national obesity epidemic, is usually caused by a combination of excess weight and lack of exercise.
Not all diabetics are obese and not all obese people are diabetic. But the first part of the quote can be considered as true, if you look at it as both are associated with heeding the advice of the nutritional triangle and eating as it recommends. We are all guilty of being misled with bad advice from what should be a trusted source.

The question I have is, were the recommendations by design or out of ignorance?

I too feel the problem is too much insulin. This causes problems for all, diabetic or not, obese or lean, even otherwise healthy people.

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Well, remember the McGovern Commission was warned that their data was wrong, but the oh-so-grandiose Senators decided their time was just too precious to bother going back and getting it right. So it surely wasn't out of ignorance!

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