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Old 11-10-2013, 01:55   #31
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testing glucose response:


No basal insulin (36 units per day normally) for 5 days

No bolus insulin for over 24 hours

these figures are highly inaccurate

07:44 woke up, slept 4 hours

07:49 coke zero, 6 oz

07:52 109a

09:02 coffee w/ sucrose, ribose, magnesium 1<no accounting for this?

09:07 125a

09:10 Kroger pork & beans, total carbs 98, net carbs 77
22 x 3.5 = 77gc, <22 grams x 3.5 servings= 77 * 5 = 385>
385 + 125 = 510 mg/dl <expected glucose from beans + 9:07 reading>

10:10 212a

10:40 218a, 512 - 218 = 294, / 60 = 4.9 units insulin used <510? from above? - 10:40 reading>

11:10 200a

11:40 179a

12:10 150a, 29 x 2 = 58 mg/dl/hr, / 60 = 1u/hr (phase 2 insulin) <29 11:40 reading - 12:10 reading x ?2? why not 50 11:10 -12:10? I may still not get it

12:30 150a

12:50 123a, 179 - 123 = 56, / 1.1 = 51, / 60 = 0.85u/hr

conclusion: my pancreas can generate about 0.85 units of
insulin per hour and store up to 3.5 units total.
rather fuzzy logic I know but it is better than nothing

my sugar used to go to 370 mg/dl peak
I still don't get stored units.

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I still don't get stored units.
Yes it is pretty sloppy

the stored units were calculated by dividing the presumed drop in virtual blood sugar by the the presumed ISF which doesn't account for the phase 2 insulin generated during the time span, pretty iffy I know! .

I didn't account for the extra 4 or so carbs in the coffee, pretty sloppy

But the listings on the can are +- 20%, pretty sloppy

My meter is +- 20%, pretty sloppy

over 180 mg/dl or so the capillaries may be mostly blocked by glucose isolate and the falling blood glucose may be mostly due to the kidneys spilling glucose into the urine. I don't like to use readings over 180 mg/dl for this reason.

when you use injected insulin you may find that at over 200 mg/dl no amount of injected insulin makes a difference but, if you add a lot more insulin, when it does drop below 180 mg/dl it will drop like a rock and you will go hypo. this is usually a problem for beginning DMT1's on a high carb diet that were told that insulin was the answer to all their problems.

hope this clears up some of the confusion. this test was to see if there was any validation to my previous test that appears to have no scientific basis, so am I wrong or is "science" wrong?

My results seemed to me to be well over the +-40% assumed error and therefor valid

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Even when I scrap all my previous theories (hypothesis), it still comes back to the arterial capillaries are being blocked and a little insulin rubbed into my leg seems to unblock them. The why I have not figured out.

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Don't know if you are right or wrong. So many variables and assumptions (i.e. rates of conversion, DP, cortisol, etc.)

Who knows which way the insulin flows. I haven't thought about it, but insulin has got to get into the blood circulation somehow does it not. Shots are SQ not IV. If some gets thru the pores of the skin, why wouldn't it get into the blood?

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Still the renegade, I am continuing this impossible experiment with 2 units of novolog applied to each leg in the morning.

using no basal insulin

22:06 cooking rice for 20 minutes, butter

22:22 121a

22:22 novolog 1u

22:29 eating rice, 72 grams carb, 2 tbs butter, 1/2 tsp lite salt, 22:50

23:50 160a

Monday, December 30, 2013

01:09 110a

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