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Old 11-08-2013, 14:33   #11
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With the new work force that is emerging, I think some of the old SOB bosses are needed to make some attitude adjustments. Not all the new workers have a 'don't care' attitude, but most are confused with the terms 'being employed' and 'working' and have no personal pride in anything they do.
Having worked in HR for over a decade now, I can say this is nothing new, nor are such attitude adjustments necessary. Someone performs you reward them, they don't and you discipline and ultimately fire them. A manager or owner has no more authority for screaming or name calling or being snide or obnoxious. Interestingly enough, they do have less authority for behaving in such a way, because most people instinctively devalue the input from such a horribly behaved human being.

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Having worked in HR for over a decade now, I can say this is nothing new, nor are such attitude adjustments necessary. Someone performs you reward them, they don't and you discipline and ultimately fire them. A manager or owner has no more authority for screaming or name calling or being snide or obnoxious. Interestingly enough, they do have less authority for behaving in such a way, because most people instinctively devalue the input from such a horribly behaved human being.
Sounds good in theory. Better results though when fellow workers have a nasty chat or repay in kind. Seems to be what they understand. HR just puts out rules and then leaves you hanging and then does not support discipline issued if it goes that route. Rewards should be for outstanding performance not routine, thats what you are being paid to do. Nobody wants to perform unless they get a pat on the head and a dog biscuit. There is a time and place for drill sergeant treatment, however not on a continuous basis.

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My experience has been more bosses who don't give any feedback at all, who manage finances and projects but not people. A simple "thank you" goes a LONG way toward making my day better.

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I don't work on the site, but on a very hot day, I will make sure everyone gets cold drinks, coke ( I should make it sugar-free ) or something, just as a small gesture for being on a high building in the heat. Unheard of in the industry. I've worked with the same teams, since I started. We like each other, in a very 'respectful' way. Firmness yes, screaming no!

But we also have a terrible workforce in the same and other industries in some instances. Lazy, really low productivity, with an entitlement attitude and often on strike in some or other area. Unions unfortunately here, are more about the little power games, to enrich the few at the top, using the workforce, who are too dumb to see it. The bosses of the unions are never on strike whilst the labour strikes with no pay, are the only ones losing out.

The whole mind-set needs to change about hard work and a little pride in whatever you choose to do.

Its more complicated than it appears. There are always two sides.

It can all change, if these silly politicians can start getting their act together, with less entitlement, but there is a glimmer of the wheel turning very very slowly in the right direction. Its taken them this long to realise, its a lose-lose situation. The workforce will follow, if it takes a few more years.

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The most unfortunate thing for labor in the US was the corruption of unions.

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Didn't think it could happen there. Just shows. Its a runaway train on this side, but was an inevitability, for them to show their true colours and what they would do with power. Now that they have, we can get back to business. I'm not always politically correct, because someone has to tell it as it is.

These unions do not even want the youth employed, due to them being a little smarter than their elders. The story goes out one-sided and the workers get sympathy from those on the outside, but they're being used.

The work ethic is wrong in any event. But the wheel turns and it'll turn around, albeit slowly.

We have to get through the debris. Had to happen!

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Used to have to belong to a couple of musician's at great expense.

I promptly dropped them after a year and spent the next 30 years with contracts anyway.

Its a small thing, but, its awful to be 15 minutes from the end of an opera rehearsal and have the conductor stop because its midnight and the orchestra union demands time and a half for 100 musicians for the next 15 minutes. Stupid and frustrating. Artistic integrity?

The average wage for back-stage union workers (the only kind you can use) in major New York City theaters is currently over $170,000 a year. And God forbid anyone else should move a chair or something. There's a separate employee for everything from sweeping the stage to running lights and sound.

These unions served an important role after the depression, but very quickly went completely out-of control. Sad that these things become so myopic and self serving.

Apologies for the rant - a sore spot.

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