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Old 01-14-2014, 18:20   #1
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Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone can give advice on going out for dinner with my 13 year old type 1 diabetic. We like going for burger and fries once a month but the place we go to (union burger) hasn't posted their nutritional info. Does anyone think if bringing a food scale could calculate the carbs in the veggie burger and fries? We haven't dined out since his diagnosis last Dec. 23 and I still want to continue dining out once in a while.

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Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone can give advice on going out for dinner with my 13 year old type 1 diabetic. We like going for burger and fries once a month but the place we go to (union burger) hasn't posted their nutritional info. Does anyone think if bringing a food scale could calculate the carbs in the veggie burger and fries? We haven't dined out since his diagnosis last Dec. 23 and I still want to continue dining out once in a while.
Not so sure how the fries will effect his levels , so many of us can eat the same foods with reasults that cover both ends of the scale.

Me personally am a T1 and could probably eat the fries and correct it with bolus insulin ; however the more carbs would require more insulin and make more room for error on the bolus, my tendancy was usually not enough to cover what I have eaten. I choose to go as low carb as possable to keep insulin useage to a minimum and leave less room for error. Just use common sense and make smart choices off the menu , you can still enjoy a night out.

I would guess less carbs in a beef burger over a veggie burger as one example.

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I agree with Craig that a beef burger would be preferable to a veggie burger - there are no carbs in the beef. But I would scrap the buns and the fries. Actually, when I was first getting started on cutting carbs, I would take my own sandwich thins, and swap those out for the higher carb buns.

And as Craig explains - it's Dr. Bernstein's laws of small numbers - fewer carbs means less insulin which means less risk of any serious miscalculation.




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I agree with Craig that a beef burger would be preferable to a veggie burger - there are no carbs in the beef. But I would scrap the buns and the fries. Actually, when I was first getting started on cutting carbs, I would take my own sandwich thins, and swap those out for the higher carb buns.

And as Craig explains - it's Dr. Bernstein's laws of small numbers - fewer carbs means less insulin which means less risk of any serious miscalculation.
Thanks Shanny.

Sorry but I really can't take credit other than passing along what I have learned from others here. This site has made a huge ( and I mean huge) difference on getting myself under control and really understanding how everything works.
So on that note ; thanks to everyone here for the help , information and support.

A little common sense helps too

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I have not eaten out in almost 5 yrs. However I would add some advice. Be sure to have a stock of glucose, with you, for lows after dosing for it. Both before and after meal.

Test after ... to get a handle on the dosing.

And you might want to make a trial run or two, at lunchtime, to see how it goes! Night time lows being a little more worrisome.

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I vote for bringing your own LC bread to slap that hamburger patty on.

Having read some of your posts, I commend you and your son for rising to the challenge. It can't be easy to have to be constantly on alert - at least at first while you two are "testing the waters", so to speak. He is one lucky fellow to have you for his mom.

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Thanks VeeJay...I do try my best. I'm actually following his diet at the moment but I find it's still high(very) on carb. I think the dietician considers the fact that he is 13 and still hitting puberty. I can't eat all that carb, fat and protein so I scale back by half or more. He's allowed 50-55 carb for breakfast and 75-80 carb for lunch and dinner. That's like 2 sandwiches for lunch. I think when he's getting into adulthood(I pray that he lives that long), I would like for him to embrace Dr. Bernstein LC/HF diet so he needs less insulin. I guess time will tell.

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Just because he's young doesn't mean he needs carbs. More protein? Sure. He may need more protein for growth. But there's no reason for the carbs. The dietician gave you the standard diabetic diet, modified just a bit to supposedly fuel a growing boy, but we know it doesn't work.

As for eating out...try a Mexican place. Fajitas, minus the tortillas, should do ok. Or a taco salad minus the shell. Load up on the sour cream and guacamole. And limit the chips. If he really wants the chips, use queso instead of salsa.

I picked the Mexican places for a couple reasons. I know how easy it is to find a tex-mex place since I'm in NM and spend lots of time in west TX. Also, outside of steakhouses, they're probably the easiest to find good food choices for diabetics, at least I think so.

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Hi. I have been a T1 diabetic since I was less than 2years old. I understand what you are going through, unfortunately my mom and dad had to go through it too. I am 45 now and very healthy. So your son can live a full healthy life with diabetes. I do recommend cutting back a bit on the carbs, even if you do not want to do the full Dr Bernstein diet. I totally follow a LCHF diet but I did not as a kid(I did not know about it as a kid either). I don't see a reason to have 80g carbs for lunch and dinner. You can certainly cut that back a bit. Please keep in mind, if you do cut back a bit on carbs you must adjust the insulin. Is your son on a pump or using MDIs? I go out to eat on occasion but I will just eat a protein and veggies. If you still want him to have some carbs, cut back where you can. Some restaurants will serve a burger in a lettuce wrap if you ask them. Then maybe he can have a few fries with that. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have.

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And if you like eating out and fast food, when I was living in the US I used to do Taco Bell's taco salad without the beans and shell…

BTW as a note to you North Americans: For all that there is a lot of processed junk and fast food and nasty stuff in the supermarkets, I have to say that you guys have a lot of "help" should you choose to use it, like those thin bun thingies. I hadn't seen those last summer when I was home, but I did see the thin bagels.

Hello My name is Teacherchick and I have a bagel addiction. After 10 years of living in Turkey, whenever I came home I would eat bagels for 2-3 meals, and had all the problems that go with, but I just missed them so bad. Last year when I found those thin ones, I just about died of happiness. I used them instead of bread, ate them every meal that I was home (because my dad is not very nutritionally aware and that ended up being the safest thing to eat in the house!)

Tinss C I think you should take advantage of anything available to help your son out, is what I am trying to say. You are very lucky to live in a country where such amazing things are available.

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