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Old 03-21-2014, 13:55   #1
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I recently bought a product called Cholest-Off Plus made by Nature Made. It is marketed as helping to reduce high cholesterol which is a problem I have posted about in Sep. 2012. Cholest-Off Plus caught my attention because the Endocrinologist I was seeing in 2012 recommended I use plant stanol and plant sterols.

On the bottle of Cholest-Off plus it says it contains something called 'reducol'. I did a google search and came up with this:

Lovastatin pharmaceutical drugs and health products

Does this mean that one of Reducol's active ingredients is lovastatin? And if it is, how can it be sold as a supplement and not a prescription?

I should add that I have also experienced muscle weakness and muscle pain for the past 6-8 weeks that I have taken this product. I am allergic to statin drugs and this muscle pain feels like it did when I took statin drugs the Doctor prescribed.

I feel really stupid and I should have read the ingredients on the entire box before I took the supplement. But then again, I didn't know what reducol was. If you google 'reducol' you find other references like this one:

Forbes Medi-Tech Agrees to Sell Sterol Manufacturing Interest for US$25 Million and Signs 5 Year Supply Agreement for Reducol'TM'. - Free Online Library

Is it all about money or helping people?

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With this supplement you are getting a low-level statin. Read the side effects - can cause muscle pain, etc.

If I were you, I'd stop it IMMEDIATELY.

These supplements are dangerous, in my opinion, because people take them thinking they are safer than statins, so they are not receiving any medical supervision (i.e.: blood tests for liver, kidney, etc.) while taking them. People are surprised to learn that these supplements have the same side effects as statins.

LCHF usually normalizes cholesterol. My cholesterol story is different from most. Initially on LCHF my lipids improved, but only so far. For about a two-year period HDL got lower. I was puzzled. But my current cholesterol test showed higher HDL and lower trigs. I suspect there was something else going on that affected these levels.

I've never taken a statin even when it was recommended by my Dr.

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Eeek, that particular supplement does not sound good at all, especially if you're feeling the same kind of side effects as you did with a statin. I hope you've decided to stop taking it!

I do take Ubiquinol as a supplement, as it is supposed to help lower LDL (among many other good benefits). If you want to try this, make sure you get the active form of Ubiquinol and not just the inactive CoQ10 version. You should see the Kaneka Q label on the bottle if it's the active form. So far I feel no side effects, but haven't any tests yet to see if it's doing me any good (only been taking it for a week).

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Eeek, that particular supplement does not sound good at all, especially if you're feeling the same kind of side effects as you did with a statin. I hope you've decided to stop taking it!

I do take Ubiquinol as a supplement, as it is supposed to help lower LDL (among many other good benefits). If you want to try this, make sure you get the active form of Ubiquinol and not just the inactive CoQ10 version. You should see the Kaneka Q label on the bottle if it's the active form. So far I feel no side effects, but haven't any tests yet to see if it's doing me any good (only been taking it for a week).
If I had been on LCHF for a year or so, instead of taking a drug to lower LDL, I'd have the VAP test run that determines particle size, because it is likely that my LDL would be the large fluffy size - but may still read as a higher level of LDL.

In fact, that's what I did, and that's what I found out.

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If I had been on LCHF for a year or so, instead of taking a drug to lower LDL, I'd have the VAP test run that determines particle size, because it is likely that my LDL would be the large fluffy size - but may still read as a higher level of LDL.

In fact, that's what I did, and that's what I found out.
Hey, VeeJay! I've been thinking about having either the VAP or NMR test done to reassure myself on that score. It seems like a really useful test to get.

I've been on LCHF for a year now and have seen no real change in any lipid levels. Of course I am still slowly losing weight, which keeps things stirred up but my doctor remains concerned with the lipids. I was rather hoping that the Ubiquinol would be a temporary measure until I can get the test done. If no improvement by the next round of labs, I will probably drop it.

I was very encouraged by your latest results, though, and that you'd seen improvement after two years. It gives me hope that I too will see lipids improve eventually.

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I had the NMR test done in Dec 2012 and although my total cholesterol was considered high, the Endocrinologist told me that my 'particles' were large and fluffy for the most part.

I have stopped this supplement and only wish I had been smart enough to never start it in the first place. I guess the old saying is true in my case:

"Too soon old, Too late smart"

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Probably what it contains is red yeast rice that is from were lovastin the drug was originally discover. For a time red yeast rice was not sold on the USA because it contained the pharmaceutical lovastin a patent drug. Lattter when it was found it is naturally occurring in red yeast rice it was allowed its sale. Maybe they are extracting the lovastin from the natural source and are able to sell the extract as a supplement. I am just speculatin don't the specific product.

Concentrated plants sterols as supplements are also controversial there are some indications that even if they reduced cholesterol because they compete with their absorption they them self can cause damage. So supplementing them probably not a good idea also.

If you want to reduce cholesterol you can do the same and more cheaply with adding fiber vegetables. There are supplemental fiber like glucomannan and fenugreek that will reduce cholesterol will serve as prebiotic and resistant starch and may reduce glycemic peak of your food. They can increase gas and bloating.

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