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Old 02-11-2015, 23:08   #1
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Well, not really from me. The “cure” word is from George Edappilly. George is no evanescent internet apparition. He is a flesh and blood person I know well. Or rather, I knew well. A quarter century ago, George was my friend and colleague at the Indian Space Research Organization. I came over to Canada. He remained in India. We lost contact. After over two decades of no contact, we unexpectedly met on the Facebook last Sunday. So the contact got renewed. George sent me this link today. It is in this link that he mentions the “C” word in relation to his diabetes.

The George I knew was not a diabetic. Nor was I a quarter century ago, or even ten years ago. But time plays and frolics. Both of us became diabetic. Now George claims he has cured his diabetes.

George’s ancestors were probably “high caste” Hindus who were converted to Christianity around 9th century CE (when Christianity was yet to establish itself in northern and western Europe) by preachers coming along with their seafaring merchant brethren from Syria and Persia who frequently visited the shores of Kerala for trading purposes. Being a Christian, George is traditionally non-vegetarian while I am a traditional Hindu vegetarian. But from the western perspective, George’s traditional non-vegetarian diet would appear predominantly vegetarian. What I am coming to is that George and I share similar lifestyles, similar diets and a similar genetic makeup. And I strongly suspect that we share the same type of mild diabetes that is easily controlled without the need for extreme low carbing or heavy medication. Looking around, I find that many Indians (including many of my diabetic relatives) share a similar version of mild diabetes that is easily controlled, and if controlled, does not progress and become worse. The George I knew did not binge eat or get drunk. As far as I knew, he followed a healthy lifestyle and remained active. He might still be doing that, and because of that his diabetes is in good control.

So, it is not necessary that “long wheat” cured George's diabetes. Or did it cure his diabetes after all? I don’t know. I have now become an agnostic (= one who thinks he doesn’t know) in the matter of if diabetes can be cured.

Anyway, the link that George forwarded me is quite interesting and worth a read.

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So glad you mean "cure" and not some other four-letter C word.

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No thanks.

I'll pass, and stick with what I am doing.

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I have to say I closed the page when I got to the statement 'Diabetes is indubitably curable', because I for one, am very dubious about George's cure, and stating it in that way is the least scientific pronouncement I've heard in recent years.




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Hi Rad,

There are some things pretty common between George, you and me. We are all from India. We are all diabetic. And we have all dealt with ISRO at some time or the other. But this is where I will part ways. I would not like to trust any N=1 experiments. And wheat, never, any form or variety. Metabolically, I firmly believe YMMV.

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So glad you mean "cure" and not some other four-letter C word.
Having walked that road, I was sure glad to hear it wasn' the big C!!

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Eat wheat to cure diabetes?

That goes in the all-time craziest gallery with stuff like reduce saturated fat (and of course increase the "heart-healthy" grains in the process) to avoid/cure CVD!

Do a large and controlled clinical study. This will fall flat on its face where it belongs.
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I find the word cure a little unsettling myself. If I were to walk into a docs office and have blood work right now there would be no trace or any markers that would indicate I was or had been a diabetic, I am by far not cured, just well controlled. Wheat is off my table.

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I find the word cure a little unsettling myself. If I were to walk into a docs office and have blood work right now there would be no trace or any markers that would indicate I was or had been a diabetic, I am by far not cured, just well controlled. Wheat is off my table.
I doubt that is entirely true. You wouldn't pass an OGTT would you?

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Smorgan No, in my present state I wouldn't pass an OGTT but neither would a non diabetic that has been eating a ketogenic diet for as long as I have. Now if I ramped up my carb consumption for a period of two weeks, who knows what would happen, I'm not going to find out though.
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