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Old 11-01-2011, 16:17   #1
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Seriously, how do they handle pt reactions ranging from obsessive-compulsive, to non-compliant?

I am dealing with a person (not family) with T2D whose care consists of regular trips to the ER. Says they "cannot afford" meds, refuse insulin, but eats carbs and drinks alcohol. I do not know A1c b/c it would not be shared with me. Employed fulltime, refused to sign up for health insurance.

Age around 30. How long do you think this could last?

This is the stuff that turns into negative stereotyping of the poor and uninsured. Sad. And so frustrating b/c I know this person knows better, on an intellectual level.

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Does 'e have a death wish? Cuz that's what'll prob'ly happen - sooner rather than later.




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Yeh, no kidding!!! I feel so helpless ...

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Young people pick an choose what they spend money on. I would bet you that young man has an i-phone, expensive cable tv, video game systems and routinely goes out to eat. So he probably does have extra money but he just doesn't want to spend it on meds or insulin. Who pays for all of his ER visits. I know even with our insurance an ER visit will be almost $2000 which we get billed. It makes me so mad when people who choose not to be insured then go use the ER at will. 3 of my adult children don't have health insurance even though they are working. They choose not to spend the money. But as you said find ways to spend money on cars, alcohol, ciagarettes and vacations. Many meds are generic and are so cheap. In fact Metformin and 4 other diabetes drugs are free at Giant Eagle.

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3 of my adult children don't have health insurance even though they are working. They choose not to spend the money.
When I was in my 30's and started my own business, I was exceptionally healthy and also didn't want health insurance gobbling income. My parents begged me to get it, and said if something serious happened to me, they would not stand back and see me get inferior care, would have to step in, and my not having insurance could wipe them out.

I got insurance that very week and have not been without since.

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No, she actually lives quite on the cheap, actually, BUT, health insurance should have been a priority. She has a, er, hanger-on living off her, too.

funny how you all assumed it was a GUY.

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Even my one son who is married and has a great job chose the cheapest insurance option at work where there are almost no premiums. But they have a $2500 deductible, which they rarely meet. We have a Health Savings Account which we just keep adding money too each year. We are saving it for retirement for when we have bigger bills. But for young people it is a pretty good option. Even if you have diabetes you can still get insurance pretty cheap especially if you work for a big employer. I also think younger people think nothing will happen to them. I always discuss with my 5 kids their risk of diabetes , they tell me I am crazy and taking this disease much too seriously. I know how frustrated it is to talk to my own adult children, I doubt a co-worker would be any easier.

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I dunno where they learned it, but my kids have always been freaky about insurance. The one has Crohn's, so he knows he MUST have coverage, one's wife is with Hartford, so if anything, they prob'ly are OVERinsured . . . one of the others has always kept full coverage - eye, dental, everything. It's quite a relief for us . . . that's for sure!




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Well, it's just difficult at sometimes.

I know I can't speak for everyone else but I have a family of 4 and I am the sole provider in my household. My husband has been disabled since 2005 and the small disability check he gets barely helps for the month. My job only offers health coverage for me and it doesn't cover much at that. Both my kids are on CHIPS and my husband has Medicare.

For a long time I would put off going to the doctor whether it was for routine check up or really ill. I just couldn't cover the co-pay and deductible. I had other priorities rent, groceries, utilities...basic needs. I know how important health is but unfortunately I ha to push that one aside. Been doing better since I got D. But making those appt is still a sacrifice.

We barely get by month to month. hopefully one day thy will change or there will be better insurance opportunities for us.

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I have a sibling who works for minimum wage and says they cannot afford to see the Dr. I know for sure they have high blood pressure because at one time they were on medication.

I can respect the fact that they have expenses like everyone else - food, rent, gas etc. However.....this person has the latest electronic gadgetry, money for fast food (because they say it is cheaper than meat and vegetables), and most important to them I guess is money for chewing tobacco. Never mind they have the same risk factor that I do: both parents had diabetes and high blood pressure.

It breaks my heart to know how they are treating themselves

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