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Old 11-09-2015, 19:17   #1
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Hi all,
After having outstanding blood work in my July 2015 trip to the doctor, I decided to get off of my Crestar 20mg/day. At that time my Lipids were as shown below. My results were so good following more than 90 days on the LCHF life style, that I felt getting off statins was my next move. So in July I stopped taking them!

July Results:
Cholesterol Total - 121
HDL - 39
LDL - 70
CHOL/HDLC RATIO - 3.1
Triglycerides - 60

November Results:
Cholesterol Total - 197
HDL - 41
LDL - 141
CHOL/HDLC RATIO - 4.8
Triglycerides - 75

Feels like I am destined to risk taking the Statin Drugs or....???
Any comments or ideas would be appreciated.

All my other chemistry is great, BP is great, A1c 5.8, etc. etc.

This jump in Blood Lipids scares me...!

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Taking a statin scares me a lot more than these numbers would. These are decent numbers and nothing to be scared of. Your HDL is still rising, the LDL is a calculated figure anyhow so ignore it, and trigs have not changed enough to be a factor - could've been what you ate for dinner the night before.

Your doctor is going to freak anyhow, so you have to rely on what you've learned about the dangers of statins. If I were you, I would stay the course and let it sort itself out. It took way more than 90 days for mine to stabilize - more like a year. Just don't get in a hurry and default to the pill again - that would be a mistake.



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Shanny,
Actually, my doctor did not freak and I was actually surprized. He commented that since all my other factors were great, BP. A1c, weight, exercise, etc. That I could go another 90 days and see what happens.

I guess I freaked as did my wife....

That's when all you guys can add perspective, then I have to make the call based on the best information I have...

Thanks....Shanny

Others, if you have knowledge or experience....please share with me....

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LDL goes up when you are losing weight. Your numbers look great to me. Statins are dangerous drugs. And don't increase life expectancy or prevent CVD which is presumed to be the point in taking them-other than obscene profits for the Pharma companies.
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Before you freak, see if you can get advanced lipid testing done. HDLabs (heard they were in trouble) Boston Heart Diagnostics, and I am sure others run advanced tests. If you don't have high arterial inflammation markers, high LDL-P, high Apo-B, then you should be good.

The tests can be expensive so see if they accept what your insurance will pay. HDLabs (Health Diagnostic Labs) was taking what your insurance paid and didn't bill the patient, may be why they have problems.

Statins do help lower inflammation, quite by coincidence, not design.

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There's nothing to be freaked about at 197/141. If you have some of your old cholesterol reports, open the ones prior to NCEP III guidelines came into force (That was when statins made an appearance). If you look at those older "normal" ranges, you are still 20% below the higher end of the range.

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Thanks all for the comments and information. For now I will not take statins as I continue to do more research including seeking additional testing. I have good heart health now, I want to keep it that way as long as possible....the fact that my father and his father both died from heart related disease. Of course they both smoked and I do not!

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I actually think the total CHO of 121 is too low. I have heard total around 200 is heart protective. Your LDL and as mentioned can be high while losing weight and isn't it supposed to be less than 150 which it is? . Your HDL is still a little low so are you willing to eat more fish, take vitamin D and do some walking? Your try's look great! Wish I had those!
Aren't your numbers all in range except HDL being on the low side?
I agree to wait a little while but with your family history you have to be a little more cautious but the drugs can do damage else where even if they make your CHO perfect.

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the fact that my father and his father both died from heart related disease. Of course they both smoked and I do not!
And they prob'ly weren't on LCHF either, so that's the greatest weapon you have in your arsenal.
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the drugs can do damage else where even if they make your CHO perfect.
the drugs can do a LOT of damage, and in my case, LCHF did a better job on my lipids than the statin ever did.




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I actually think the total CHO of 121 is too low. I have heard total around 200 is heart protective. Your LDL and as mentioned can be high while losing weight and isn't it supposed to be less than 150 which it is? . Your HDL is still a little low so are you willing to eat more fish, take vitamin D and do some walking? Your try's look great! Wish I had those!
Aren't your numbers all in range except HDL being on the low side?
I agree to wait a little while but with your family history you have to be a little more cautious but the drugs can do damage else where even if they make your CHO perfect.
Eating more fish and more exercise does not bring up HDL. At least not in me. I think the problem is more genetic with those of us living with heart disease. I exercise for 1 and half hours 5 days a week, eat fish at least 3. My numbers have not improved. My father this way, and I suspect his father had low hdl also.

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