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Old 01-08-2016, 17:41   #1
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Question Another statins question

I had a minor TIA in early November. As a result, my doctor wants my cholesterol levels to be "squeaky clean". I've been on Lipitor since then, and feeling muscle weakness in my legs. I'm used to being very active, and think this might be a result of the Lipitor.

Here is where I was in November,

Total Cholesterol 197
HDL Cholesterol 67
LDL Cholesterol 115

I believe my triglycerides where in the mid 70s

Do these number really look that bad? I really would love to be off the Lipitor if possible. I have a message in to my doctor as well. My quality of life has to mean something.

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If I were having muscle weakness from a statin, I'd stop it right now before the damage becomes permanent.

Your cholesterol numbers are SO not anywhere near a problem. The idea that all diabetics should be on statins is hogwash. They do more damage than good IMO. Besides, a LCHF way of eating takes care of any cholesterol problem without any side effects.

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can i cold turkey stop a statin without damage? Thanks for your response!

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I don't know if you can just stop or if you need to go off slowly. Hopefully someone else will stop by soon who knows.

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I stopped my statin cold turkey after taking it for 10 years and felt about 1000% better after two days off. Not had any problems since either.

I would think that with your short term usage you would have no problem stopping cold turkey. But you need to do whatever you are comfortable doing.

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Are you doing LCHF?

That makes a big difference in your lipid profile.

Whether or not it prevents TIAs ...... who knows.

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I'm doing LC (under 30g a day) probably not HF enough

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I experienced pain & weakness in my arms and hands after being on a statin, and I stopped it immediately. This was the first year after my diabetes diagnosis, and after being on LCHF ever since, this way-of-eating regulates my lipids far better than the drug ever did.

And VeeJay is right - your numbers are nowhere NEAR being a problem! Your HDL is high, your triglycerides are low. That's all that counts. When you embrace the LCHF lifestyle, this way-of-eating converts your LDL to light fluffy buoyant particles which cannot pass through the epithelial barrier to form plaque on your arteries. And if your doctor argues, then you insist that he order the VAP or the NMR LipoProtein test to prove you know what you're talking about.




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I had the VAP test run and, sure enough, even though my LDL was high-ish it was made up of the TypeA (large fluffy) particles. My doctor wasn't familiar with this apparently and still thought I should be on statins. I get the "statin recommendation" EVERY TIME after having a lipid panel run - and I've changed doctors and the new one also recommends statins. This last time, too, even though the lab itself stated on the report that I had low risk because of the HDL/Trig levels.

It's like it's a knee-jerk response by doctors.

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I would jump in joy with those numbers. Even from the Dr's perspective, what would a 15 mg/dl reduction in LDL mean ? Cholesterol numbers fluctuate a lot throughout the day and a blood draw 15 minutes later might have convinced him the other way (re statins). Do research the pathways by which statins reduce the LDL in the body. There will be no need to ask this question.

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