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Old 09-23-2017, 18:42   #111
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I've always wondered why they go through the list anyway. My understanding is that not that many people need to experience the side effect for it to be listed, so the lists get long. But 98% of the world for whom that particular drug is of no value get to sit through the hurried recitation.

Shouldn't the benefits and side effects be something your health provider discusses with you as part of using that drug in treatment?

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itissteve.....I can only speak from my experience.

I was put on Januvia 8 or 9 years ago by my doctor, he said it would help me control my blood sugar. I trusted that and my doctor gave me no warning about the drug. I just started taking it as prescribed. Over a period of time maybe 2-3 months I started getting congestion in my lungs and every time this problem started it came on quick. Over a period of a few days turned into a full case of bronchitis's. I have never been prone to this, but when I had the first one, I did not think much about it. I eventually went to my doctor and he gave me antibiotics which in turn cleared up the infection. Then within a few weeks it came on again, with the same result. I still thought it must just be my diabetes and the fact I was getting older. Then within a few weeks, bang...same thing! This went of through 5 or six infections, when I started asking questions and doing research on Januvia....and their it was....can cause upper respiratory infections!

I got off the Januvia and have not had an upper respiratory infection since. On top of that, Januvia had no visible improvement on my blood sugar readings....it only made me sick!

I changed doctors, but regardless, I avoid taking any new meds, if told I must, you can bet I will do my own research before agreeing to take them.....I trust no one but myself when it comes to my health.....

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Shouldn't the benefits and side effects be something your health provider discusses with you as part of using that drug in treatment?
You would think so, wouldn't you? In my personal experience, not so much.

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I've always wondered why they go through the list anyway. My understanding is that not that many people need to experience the side effect for it to be listed, so the lists get long. But 98% of the world for whom that particular drug is of no value get to sit through the hurried recitation.

Shouldn't the benefits and side effects be something your health provider discusses with you as part of using that drug in treatment?
I think legally they are now required to disclose all known side effects.

You suggest that 98% of people using the drugs do not experience side effects....do you have any data or articles to support that number?

Of course doctors and medical providers should discuss potential side effects, my experience is that they do not!

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You suggest that 98% of people using the drugs do not experience side effects....do you have any data or articles to support that number?
Please read it again. That's not what I said. I said:
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But 98% of the world for whom that particular drug is of no value get to sit through the hurried recitation.
The world -- the millions of Americans who don't have diabetes who have zero interest in Januvia's side effects because there's no reason for them to consider taking Januvia. The vast portion of the citizenry without rheumatoid arthritis who could care less about whether Enbrel can causes headaches because they're not arthritic and, therefore, not candidates for the drug in the first place.

"The world" -- the universe of TV viewers who do not have the conditions particular drugs treat. I do not have documentation to support 98% but I have to think the number is high because even Januvia users who do not have rheumatoid arthritis don't care about Enbrel's side effects -- and vice versa. So why the litany of side effects addressing a tiny portion of the viewing public? Especially when that conversation should more properly be had in the practitioner's office.

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Of course doctors and medical providers should discuss potential side effects, my experience is that they do not!
IMHO listing them hurriedly in a 60-second ad is no fix for that. I'd rather they replaced "the list" with stronger advice to discuss Rx choices with your HCP and to evaluate possible side effects before and while taking the meds. (That language is there but takes a distinct second place to the sales push.) Even better, I'd like to see those ads taken off the air. Why are Joe and Jane Public being presold on a drug that may or may not be at all appropriate for them? Deciding on that is part of a conversation with their HCP. Or should be. Advertising a new wonder drug isn't going to fix that.

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So, am I the only one that occasionally cusses at their blood glucose monitor?

Have you ever thrown one? Just askin'...

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Too small and light. Nothing satisfying at all about throwing it.

The only time I cuss at it is as part of the entire meter kit and it usually means I'm on Poke #3 or 4 to get enough blood for a good read.

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So, am I the only one that occasionally cusses at their blood glucose monitor?

Have you ever thrown one? Just askin'...
I cuss at mine at least once daily, usually in the early AM. Wouldn't be prudent, wouldn't be wise, to do it any less. Haven't thrown one in a blue moon, though.

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“Throughout life people will make you mad, disrespect you and treat you bad. Let God deal with the things they do, cause hate in your heart will consume you too.”
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