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Old 02-02-2012, 17:11   #1
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Yesterday was the first day I cracked the low"ish" carb threshold and had 149g of carbs. Considering I was eating nearly 270g a month ago my process of weaning myself down to a good carb level.

My problem is this: today for my pp readings after breakfast I had a spike of 214 at the one hour point. At two hours I was at 116 and at 3 hours I was at 89, my FBG was 93 so I am now lower than where I started the day.

My breakfast was Canadian bacon and egg eaters with a coffee chaser.

Is it normal for BG to spike the first couple of days in a LC state? Almost like the body is cleansing itself all at once?

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I just remembered that you were on insulin.

But in any case thats a massive spike and drop A spike of 120 points at breakfast would mean something like having atleast 50 gms of carbs (just a rough figure)

Perhaps you should move your carb load to other times during the day ?

A more balanced curve (instead of a spike) can be achieved but distributing your carbs through day (or reducing them)

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Your 2 and 3 hour numbers are great. If you had a 214 at one hour, what was your pre meal number or was that a spike of 214 points. I can't say I had huge spikes like when starting to low carb but I often got liver glucose dumps when I wasn't eating. Did you put anything in your coffee. The only thing I can say is that maybe you did not eat enough fat for breakfast. The Canadian bacon is lean and egg beaters have no fat. Try going for real eggs and real bacon or sausage. Other than that I think you are doing good. Did you inject insulin before the meal?

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Just my basal of 20u of Lantus. I had the same breakfast as I have for the last month. Normally I get a one hour pp reading of 160 to 180 depending on where I start. Today's 214 threw me for a loop. That's why I was wondering if going too low might, as so eloquently stated before, cause a liver dump that spiked the one hour pp.

Just curious and something I'm going to watch out for and try and figure out what it was.

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I tend to get liver dumps if I haven't eaten for 4 or 5 hours. But in the morning I do get hormone spikes sometimes similar to Dawn Phenomenom. If I wake up and don't eat my bgs keep rising. One day I did an all day fast and my bgs raised to over 200 before they stabalized and started to lower. It could be that your body was expecting more food. I make sure I have a tablespoon of Coconut Oil in the morning to minimize bg spikes. My morning bgs are usually the highest. Do you take metformin? It may help with the liver dumps.

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Only the Lantus. And this is the "unexpected" spike. I've had them before when I was experimenting with what foods I could or couldn't eat, but that was at dinner. First time with a breakfast spike. That's why I ws curious if I had gone too low or dropped too quick. I was at 175g of carbs Tuesday and dropped to the 150g level yesterday.

Just trying to figure this stupid thing out. I don't like things that aren't unexplained. Lol

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I just remembered a discussion we had a few months ago. We were talking about Ketosis. Sometimes your body will take several weeks to a month to adjust and start burning fat for energy. As you lower your carbs to Ketosis levels you will find more consistent bg readings. But one of the things they said if you go off your diet it may take several week to get back into ketosis.

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David? I've always been thinking you are type 1 . . . dunno where I got the idea & I'm prob'ly mistaken, but now I wonder why you aren't using a bolus insulin? Maybe it's time, y'think? Your lantus won't cover your meals - it's just a background "basal" player.




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I've been thinking that as well. Though I must admit that my doc has been lacking in teaching c:I ratio or anything in that area. He is a "baby step" kinda doc. Get one thing mastered before moving to the next. While I like that it can be frustrating at times.

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David did you retest, if I get an unexpected higher/lower number I retest to confirm before I drive myself crazy trying to work out why. Just a thought
You are doing well, it took me about a month when I went cold turkey on carbs before I saw consistently good results.

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