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Old 02-17-2012, 12:44   #1
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There was a news story about declining amputations ... but:

A coworker was told yesterday she might lose her toe.

She has T2D, and is not even 31 yet.

I feel awful for her -- she recently has lost a lot of weight, but says she cannot afford the only med that works, and refuses to use insulin. Please keep her in your thoughts. She tries to eat LC, but falls off the wagon a lot.

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I am so sorry about your coworker. What is the only med that works for her? I think lots of people cannot understand why they get complications but only eat LC part of the time. If you could get through to her that Diabetes is 24/7 and you have to watch diet all the time, not just some time. Is the weight loss on purpose or is it from high bgs? Do you know how often she tests? It wasn't until I started to test a whole bunch that I started to gain control over bgs. If she is slipping up on her LC diet she needs to be testing so she knows what happens when she eats carbs. As far as insulin goes, try to explain to her sometimes it is not a choice. Once your pancreas goes, it is gone and you have to replace that natural insulin some way. Since she is young are you sure she may not be LADA.

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Januvia.

Hard telling if the weight loss intentional, definitely desirable though. She does not test, can't afford strips, etc. We have an excellent health insurance policy, which she turned down, though.

She told me she had PCOS and elevated BGs even as a child. I think she thought she was young and under the radar. The complications sneak up.

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We have a very high deductible insurance so my husband's ACTOS is $225 per month here in the US. We buy it through an online pharmacy in British Columbia for 3 months for about $225, so it is still expensive but a big savings. I buy my strips on Amazon. My children are about her age and none of them want to spend money on their healthcare. They will pay for cell phone bill, cable tv, vacations but they don't want to pay for their medical bills. She needs to make a decision how important her body is to her. I know this sounds harsh, but this generation wants someone else to pay their medical bills. 4 out of 5 of my children are uninsured by choice. If she is not testing, no wonder she has complications. She is driving blindfolded. I don't know how you convince someone to take care of their own health. Do you know if she does yearly HbA1c tests? The reason I take care of myself is because I cannot afford the more expensive drugs like Januvia, Actos, Victoza and Byetta. If she has had bg problems since childhood a lot of damage may have already been done. She may have to go on insulin.

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No kidding. Jeanne I am sorry about your kids!!!!

(I supervise this one and my hands are tied, but did recommend the health plan).

SO FRUSTRATING!!!

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That's about all you can do. She is an adult and responsible for her own health, especially when healthcare is offered and not chosen. I think people like to make excuses for not taking care of themelves. Having Diabetes is not easy but we all do the best we can with the resources we have. We pay a lot for insurance every month and it still doesn't cover my meds, strips or doc visits but we still have it for that catastrophic event. It is called being responsible.

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I had an Uncle that had to have both of his legs amputated. He was a Type 1 and he never took care of himself. He was also an alcoholic. When he did decide to take care of himself it was to little to late. Other complications had set in. He received his healthcare through the Indian reservation and he was also Vet so he had access to medical help. He just didn't want to give up his beer and whiskey. He died about 15 years ago.

I hope things work out for your co-worker.

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I hope things work out for your coworker. I know how difficult it can be when you know how to help them out but they just won't listen. Maybe this will be the thing that turns her around and she can stop more damage from being done.

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I had an Uncle that had to have both of his legs amputated. He was a Type 1 and he never took care of himself. He was also an alcoholic. When he did decide to take care of himself it was to little to late. Other complications had set in. He received his healthcare through the Indian reservation and he was also Vet so he had access to medical help. He just didn't want to give up his beer and whiskey. He died about 15 years ago.

I hope things work out for your co-worker.

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Same with my brother Penny. He lost 1 leg but still didn't take care. He had access to health care but just couldn't give up the alcohol.
I can't even remember seeing him test his sugar (he lived with me several times). So sad.

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I don't understand why people turn down excellent healthcare when it is available to them. Can she not afford it? If she is going to have surgery to remove a toe from diabetes, what does she think that is going to cost her? Might have been worth paying for the health insurance rather than being 31 and having a toe removed because she chooses to only try part time to each LC. Sad really. She playing russian roulette with her health, and she lost. Hopefully she will see the seriousness of this disease and begin taking better care of herself full time. My prayers and thoughts go out to her that she sees the light.

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