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Old 07-13-2017, 18:12   #11
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Just an update while I continue to test this...

Last Night Bedtime: 87
This Morning: 89

In the past, if I chose not to eat something (or drink Bullet Proof Coffee) after waking up, my blood sugar would continue to rise until I did so.

So I decided not to eat anything just to see if it would remain.

1 hour later after not eating: 100
Another hour later: 110

So I decided to eat something. Jimmy Dean Simple Scrambles (Meat Lovers) 2 carbs
One hour later: 94

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I am loving these numbers, especially the fasting ones.

I am hoping this means I have found a solution (for me) for dawn phenomenon, as long as I break my fast every morning....

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That would be wonderful, Cricket, after your struggle with it. Persistence pays off!

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FYI update on my testing, removal of any of the 3 supplements appears to raise my morning numbers - not quite as high as they were before, but higher than using all 3 together.

One more update on attempts not to eat in the morning, or at least have my version of bullet proof coffee - This morning I decided to try to wait it out (one last time) to see if it would eventually stop going up (my numbers). I finally gave up when it hit 130+ after starting from 94. So at least for me, for some unknown reason, my liver apparently loves to spew glucose at me if I don't eat.

So for now, I will just keep doing what I am doing.

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I'd stick to a good thing too Cricket. It's interesting this experiment. Thank you for sharing that with us. Although my A1c seems to be ok..i still struggle with dawn phenonomen. Wonder if the body actually thinks it's starving by the morning and the liver kicks in for glucose as it thinks we need energy, you would think the LCHF way of eating would counteract that, so I'm wondering a fat bomb before bed? It's just a thought. I'll try it and get back to you.

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I'd stick to a good thing too Cricket. It's interesting this experiment. Thank you for sharing that with us. Although my A1c seems to be ok..i still struggle with dawn phenonomen. Wonder if the body actually thinks it's starving by the morning and the liver kicks in for glucose as it thinks we need energy, you would think the LCHF way of eating would counteract that, so I'm wondering a fat bomb before bed? It's just a thought. I'll try it and get back to you.
This is just my thought (I could be totally wrong!) but I think that one reason we may find differences between us (for those who experience dawn phenomenon or don't get great results from fasting) is that each of us may have different secondary issues.

As an example, I have a couple of growths on my thyroid and one on my pituitary gland, so some hormones may throw things off a bit.

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This is just my thought (I could be totally wrong!) but I think that one reason we may find differences between us (for those who experience dawn phenomenon or don't get great results from fasting) is that each of us may have different secondary issues.

As an example, I have a couple of growths on my thyroid and one on my pituitary gland, so some hormones may throw things off a bit.
And I had hypothyroidism caused by Graves' disease...good point as my hormones are al over the paddock
I'll still try the fat bomb before bed thou, I have a theory on that.
Looove experimenting on myself

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I was on 4 met per day. Bothered my stomach. Went on 4 berberine per day. No met. Lowered bs from 8.4 to 6.5 in 3 months. Lowered colesterol 50 points and triglycerides by 40 points. I stomach problems. About to do fresh blood work. Anxious to see.

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what is the op's version of bullet proof coffee? im interested,

also research reactive hypoglycemia because since we sleep we are not eating, we are going hypo in a way, and may contribute to dawn phenom, id suggest waking, sipping some oj first thing, then check ur numbers, or eat right away and then check, if u see that ur numbers drop AFTER u eat it may in fact be a form of hypoglycemia kicking in over night....

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what is the op's version of bullet proof coffee? im interested,

also research reactive hypoglycemia because since we sleep we are not eating, we are going hypo in a way, and may contribute to dawn phenom, id suggest waking, sipping some oj first thing, then check ur numbers, or eat right away and then check, if u see that ur numbers drop AFTER u eat it may in fact be a form of hypoglycemia kicking in over night....
OJ is loaded with carbs and sends my blood sugar through the roof. I live a fairly strict KETO lifestyle.

Normally, my version of Bulletproof Coffee Includes:
  • coffee
  • coconut oil
  • ceylon cinnamon
  • granulated splenda
  • butter (kerrygold)
  • heavy whipping cream

More recently it has included:
  • coffee
  • ceylon cinnamon
  • granulated splenda
  • butter (kerrygold)
  • heavy whipping cream
  • brain octane oil (by bulletproof)

That being said, my morning number are much better now, as long as I don't forget to eat something or have my coffee - otherwise my liver kicks in and dumps all kinds of glucose.

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