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Old 04-09-2012, 19:15   #11
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Are you talking about Ancel Keys study that started all the fat/cholesterol scare? Go watch Big Fat Fiasco on YouTube. There are 5 parts to it and about an hour to see. Google for cardiologists views of saturated fats.

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Fat that you eat, provided it is the natural kind (bacon fat, coconut oil, etc. won't raise your lipids. In fact, eating that way has made mine drop. We've all been brainwashed about fats and it's hard to get your mind around, but actually they are good for us. Carbs are what raises your lipid levels...believe it or not!


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John? The fat in our own bodies is natural saturated fat - something manufactured by our own bodies is not going to be toxic. When we lose weight and reduce the fat from our bodies, we're burning natural saturated fat as fuel for our activities. And when we incorporate natural saturated fat into our way-of-eating, it enables our bodies to convert to burning fat for fuel all the time, and it eliminates a lot of the glucose problems related to diabetes.

I have recently made this conversion, and my blood sugar is dropping steadily as time goes on. I'm getting fastings under 100 (5.5) for the first time in two years, and that is possible because there is less chance for glycogen to accumulate in my liver, so there's less of it to convert to glucose if my liver thinks I'm getting low.

The ratio is the imperative - very high fat, and very low carbs.

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Hi everyone -
Thank you for the advice and suggestions. I've been pondering it and making some plans. Clearly, changes are needed.
I am a bit concerned about a high-fat diet. Won't this contribute to elevated bad cholesterol levels and high blood pressure? Have there been any studies on the possible negative side affects of eating so many fats, including animal-related fats (butter, bacon fat, etc.)? It's just that it goes against a lot of science out there, so I'd like to feel a bit safer before making a change.
The current science, properly conducted, is heavily in favour of eating saturated animal fats. Read this blog entry which contains links to clinical trials that support the use of saturated animal fats. There is also plenty of evidence out there that over history, diabetes incidence has been lower when the populations ate a healthy diet that included lots of animal fats, and that it increased when low fat diets became fashionable. The current epidemic of diabetes can be directly connected to the HCLF promotion by governments, particularly the US, which has been adopted by most other western countries as a result.

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