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Chaidragonfire 06-23-2018 01:06

Do you know how you got diabetes?
 
Most people hear "I have diabetes" and automatically think you are a sugar junkie.

Although I did like my candy bars growing up, I wasn't addicted to them. I loved my sweet desserts and Dr. Pepper. But they weren't staples of my diet.

I've had allergies all of my life. Most of my allergies are to pollution, and usually that's road pollution. By that, i mean anywhere they are digging up roads and laying new ones, thats the stuff that really gets me. I've been allergic to cigarette smoke and overly pungent colognes when I was younger, but it wasn't anywhere near the extreme problems I have with them today.

Keeping that in mind....I never really had healthcare when I was younger. I couldn't afford anything more being taken out of my paycheck than what was already being taken out in taxes.

So, I depended a LOT on over the counter meds. Back then, OTC meds didn't have the warnings on them they have today. I pretty much would do anything to keep from feeling all the pain from allergies...which included going through several boxes of allergy meds a month sometimes.

Only towards the late 90's did they start putting the warning "can cause kidney and liver damage" on these OTC meds for allergies.

Sometime around 2009 I was diagnosed with diabetes. I didn't even know I had it. I didn't have the symptoms.......I didn't need to constantly pee, I wasn't thirsty all the time, I wasn't hungry all the time, I didn't have blurry vision, I wasn't tired all the time (then)......I didn't have any of the signs of having diabetes.

In fact, if I hadn't had gone for a physical at that time, I would have never known.

I was in the dr.s office and after my blood was drawn, the nurse came running in and looked at me funny. She asked if I was thirsty or had to pee a lot, or had blurry vision, or was feeling sluggish. I told her no, I felt fine and had been feeling fine.

She said my blood sugar was over 1,000 points and if it wasn't brought down in 24 hours they were going to relieve me from work.

They gave me a prescription for some Metformin, which I filled after the dr. visit. I ate some veggies for dinner that night, took my Metformin, and went for a long walk.

The next day I went back for a retest and my blood sugar had fallen below 300. So all was well. But after that I had to get looked at by a specialist and get on regular meds.

So, now if I take allergy medicine, it HAS to be prescribed. I can't take that OTC stuff anymore.

Hearts Jounrey 06-23-2018 17:32

how can someone with a blood sugar of 1000 not have any symptoms.

What Can Happen to Body If Sugar Is Higher Than 600 for Many Hours?

When blood sugar levels are high for prolonged periods of time and the body starts using fat for energy, toxic ketones are produced. The presence of ketones can be measured in the urine. They are the acid byproduct of fat breakdown. Diabetes is the most common cause of high blood sugar levels. Hyperglycemia can also be caused by acute pancreatitis. Early symptoms include frequent urination that leads to dehydration and excessive thirst. Blood sugar more than 600 for many hours could then lead to difficulty breathing, weakness, confusion and decreased level of consciousness. The symptoms of DKA are high blood sugars (300 mg/dl or higher ) and: excessive thirst, frequent urination, nausea vomiting, abdominal pain, loss of appetite, Weakness or fatigue, shortness of breath, fruity-scented breath, and confusion.

The other dangerous condition associated with very high blood sugars is the hyperosmolar hyperglycemic State.(HHS) Untreated this condition leads to coma and death.

It happens when people with Type 2 diabetes become severely dehydrated at the same time that they are experiencing very high blood sugars. This can happen when they have a serious diarrhea and vomiting syndrome like that caused by norovirus or e coli, or in elderly people who are prone to dehydration. With HHS, the patient will not be spilling ketones. But if it occurs it is more likely to be fatal than DKA. Estimates of its fatality range from 10-20%.

HHS may develop over a course of days or weeks, unlike DKA which develops suddenly. Symptoms include very high blood sugar (over 600 mg/dl) and: drowsiness and lethargy, delirium, coma, seizures, visual changes or disturbances, hemiparesis (one sided paralysis), and sensory deficits. Patients with HHS do not typically report abdominal pain, which is often seen in DKA.

Chaidragonfire 06-23-2018 19:27

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Originally Posted by Hearts Jounrey (Post 1304817)
how can someone with a blood sugar of 1000 not have any symptoms.

What Can Happen to Body If Sugar Is Higher Than 600 for Many Hours?

When blood sugar levels are high for prolonged periods of time and the body starts using fat for energy, toxic ketones are produced. The presence of ketones can be measured in the urine. They are the acid byproduct of fat breakdown. Diabetes is the most common cause of high blood sugar levels. Hyperglycemia can also be caused by acute pancreatitis. Early symptoms include frequent urination that leads to dehydration and excessive thirst. Blood sugar more than 600 for many hours could then lead to difficulty breathing, weakness, confusion and decreased level of consciousness. The symptoms of DKA are high blood sugars (300 mg/dl or higher ) and: excessive thirst, frequent urination, nausea vomiting, abdominal pain, loss of appetite, Weakness or fatigue, shortness of breath, fruity-scented breath, and confusion.

The other dangerous condition associated with very high blood sugars is the hyperosmolar hyperglycemic State.(HHS) Untreated this condition leads to coma and death.

It happens when people with Type 2 diabetes become severely dehydrated at the same time that they are experiencing very high blood sugars. This can happen when they have a serious diarrhea and vomiting syndrome like that caused by norovirus or e coli, or in elderly people who are prone to dehydration. With HHS, the patient will not be spilling ketones. But if it occurs it is more likely to be fatal than DKA. Estimates of its fatality range from 10-20%.

HHS may develop over a course of days or weeks, unlike DKA which develops suddenly. Symptoms include very high blood sugar (over 600 mg/dl) and: drowsiness and lethargy, delirium, coma, seizures, visual changes or disturbances, hemiparesis (one sided paralysis), and sensory deficits. Patients with HHS do not typically report abdominal pain, which is often seen in DKA.


I don't know what to tell you.............other than everything that affects everybody else has been opposite for me. What makes others sick, has no effect on me. What has no effect on others, makes me sick. I've always been like that, and it's always baffled doctors.

If a doctor gives me a prescription and tells me it's not known to have any side effects.......I have side effects.

Millions of people take Tylonol products. Tylonol has no effect on me.
Usually the products that people claim are least effective on them, are the ones that work on me.

I just tell people I'm "special" that way. LOL

rsfletcher 06-25-2018 13:31

For me I'm pretty sure it was a genetic mutation that caused my Type 1 Diabetes. I was diagnosed at 4 while my sister was diagnosed at 50. Two of my cousin's kids also have type 1.
When I was doing the genealogy thing - I was curious to find out what family line this mutation may have traveled. Looks like it was the Fueg branch. They immigrated from Switzerland to Ohio back in the late 1800s. I found a death certificate from Louis Fueg who would have been a great Uncle who died of a diabetic coma in 1943 at the age of 20.
The interesting thing about this - insulin was already discovered but there was no mass production of it yet so people continued to die until a good distribution system was established.
That would really suck - succumbing to something that can be treated but not available.

Squawkx 06-25-2018 16:19

I think that I was predisposed to having it, and I ignored that. My mother and father had it, and they had BS reading of 400+.
My mother would have crashes and nearly collapse.
I told myself that I simply was not going to get it; and so, when my time came, I was a mix and match of my parents. I was silly and I told myself lies, and the diabetes did not care, what I thought.

kyteflyer 06-30-2018 00:36

I think mine must have a genetic component. I've only discovered my biological heritage in the last 18 months (Ancestry DNA helped me to find cousins and 2 half brothers on my father's side) and in the last few weeks, a letter from someone who turns out to be a cousin by marriage. Both sides of the family have a shedload of diabetes, both types. I dont think I was ever going to avoid it.

xring 06-30-2018 04:45

I have theories about the causes for diabetes, but no one really knows for sure. Eating excess sugar or drinking soft drinks is often blamed, but how does that explain friends we all have who eat & drink sugar day & night without diabetes?

Same with weight; ignorant people say "Being too fat causes diabetes." Really?? Why do so many skinny people have diabetes?
I had a co-worker who was at least 150 lbs. overweight & he ate a large bag of M & M's with Pepsi every day for lunch & dinner. We'd tease him about it. I'd discuss my dental problems since birth with him because his teeth looked perfect. He never had a single cavity. I'd say to him, "With all that sugar you eat, I'm sure you take good care of your teeth & see your dentist regularly." After he finished laughing, he said, "Yeah...I brush once a month & I saw a dentist once when I was 5 years old because my mom took me."

Of course, people want to feel better about themselves & superior to others & blaming people for diabetes is one way for them.

VeeJay 06-30-2018 13:37

I had reactive hypoglycemia about 15-20 years before developing diabetes. Then no problem for several years after that. Then at age 63 my fasting from the lab was 170 (had been in the 90s every year before that and A1C was in the 5% range). At that point I got a diabetes dx.

So, my guess is that my pancreas had a weakness from the beginning, went wonky for a while, and then finally became inefficient. It's not quit, and I can still count on an adequate Phase2 response. As long as I eat to my insulin production, all is well.

I'm now 71 and there hasn't been much change in my situation, so I don't see needing insulin anytime soon. But one never knows.

NSDad126 06-30-2018 16:58

I eat for stress, comfort, when I'm happy, fatiqued, and feeling really good. It would be easy to say that I have diabetes because I am morbidly obese.

However, if I speculate a little bit...

I have extreme sleep apnea which I treat with 100% compliance with a CPAP.

If I compare my 'fat and sick' levels of energy and alertness with my '150lb 15yr old me', I strongly beleive that I had sleep apnea or some other metabolic condition in my teens. Ofcourse, in the 80s, sleep apnea was not a household word. By the time I was in college, I had already passed 220lbs, and things like sleeping in the shower standing up was already 'normal'.

I was almost 40 before I was diagnosed with sleep apnea.

My pressures have always been high, and I actually snore while using my mask.

In 2006, I had an ENT doctor send a camera up my nose, he wanted to do surgery on me. Basically, peel my face back, burn amd cotterize my nasal tissue, and take a chisel to the bone to open up my airway.

Sorry about the TMI description LOL.

I refused the surgery. My condition is manageable with a cpap mask. I am more of a mouth breather than most. Plus there are steriodal sprays that I could help me but I am currently managing without them.

diabetes86 07-01-2018 03:14

Bad genes ........


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