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Old 12-19-2018, 03:09   #1
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diagnosed with lung cancer... metastasized to her brain...

fought all of that....


and then died of complication from diabetes at age 75


For all who just want to wait until the symptoms get worse....

diabetes if left untreated is no joke.

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It didn't say which complications she had. I'm assuming heart problems, as she was quite overweight.

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I was curious about the complications, too. I wondered if the complication was an undetected low blood sugar.

I came here to see if this was being discussed.

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I too was curious about the cause of her death, as you cannot believe what is printed or put out by the news networks. I fear that anytime someone famous is diabetic and they die, the first thing the medical world will say is they died from Diabetic related disease. People die from heart problems all the time and I wonder if they can really directly tell if the heart problems are diabetic related. Show me the causation and evidence thereof.


Just saying, you cannot trust what you hear....

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diagnosed with lung cancer... metastasized to her brain...

fought all of that....


and then died of complication from diabetes at age 75


For all who just want to wait until the symptoms get worse....

diabetes if left untreated is no joke.
Well, we all agree that diabetes if left untreated is no joke, but how do you know it was "untreated" in her case? Treating diabetes, keeping numbers good doesn't guarantee there will be no complications.

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People die from heart problems all the time and I wonder if they can really directly tell if the heart problems are diabetic related. Show me the causation and evidence thereof.
I don't think they can tell. Any chronic condition (not just diabetes) provides a convenient hook on which to hang any number of other issues. When I had a problem with my meniscus, the orthopedic surgeon blamed it on my being overweight. Yeah, 'cause people of "normal" weight never have problems with their knees...

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Her cancers were said to be in remission for several years. I haven't, as of yesterday, seen what diabetic complication(s) they are specifically blaming and that can be a big variety of things.

The obits are full of names of people passing away everyday that do not indicate cause of death and many are much younger than she was (75).

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I was curious about the complications, too. I wondered if the complication was an undetected low blood sugar.

I came here to see if this was being discussed.
From her weight gain, I'd say that's a definite possibility. I suspect a chain reaction - blood sugar goes up, doctor says to increase insulin, extra insulin causes more fat storage & more lows.

There were a few nights I (luckily) woke up with low blood sugar after correcting a 300 before bed. Not any more.

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I don't think they can tell. Any chronic condition (not just diabetes) provides a convenient hook on which to hang any number of other issues. When I had a problem with my meniscus, the orthopedic surgeon blamed it on my being overweight. Yeah, 'cause people of "normal" weight never have problems with their knees...
Maybe it's ego, but I've never met a doctor who is able to use the phrase "I don't know" or "We don't know." Whenever they can't figure out what's causing a problem, they usually blame the patient. Since no one is perfect & everybody has something, it's pretty easy for them.

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I don't think they can tell. Any chronic condition (not just diabetes) provides a convenient hook on which to hang any number of other issues. When I had a problem with my meniscus, the orthopedic surgeon blamed it on my being overweight. Yeah, 'cause people of "normal" weight never have problems with their knees...
Yup - I can relate to what you're saying for sure. I remember a few years ago after I tore my rotator cuff kayaking - I went to see my doctor and he tried to tell me it was neuropathy - so I left, mad as hell - went to a clinic, didn't tell them I had diabetes and got it properly diagnosed - had physio and eventually it healed up.

I wonder how many times things get misdiagnosed because the patient is living with a chronic condition. Bet ya it happens all the time.

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