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Old 03-02-2013, 14:29   #11
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I have never had 1 issue with metformin & I have never paid one cent for it.

Yet I have had BAD reactions with januvia. medicare will pay for it at $657.for 90tabs.

guess we all handle our meds in a different way.

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I pay $8.00 a month for XR metformin I purchase locally.

And the study seems to indicate that this class of drugs, GLP-1's (look it up, it is mentioned in the initial mainstream news article, do cause an increased level of pancreatitis. And that is a condition which causes permanent problems.

An excess of 30 / 1200, by the way, is one in 40. Do you want to be the one in forty?
What I don't want is to have the side effects of Metforman. I took the first pill--100mg at noon the day I was diagnosed. 5 minutes later I got a stomach ache and nausea that got worse as the day progressed. I called the pharmacy and they suggested I take half a pill until I got used to it. The pain had eased a bit by morning so I took a half pill and was immediately back in pain and nausea and then the diarreha started. That night I made several trips to the bathroom. In the morning I got up and was walking down the hall and it was like a gush of water all over me and the floor. I sat on the toilet and didn't know which end to put over the bowl. I didn't take any more Metforman. When things eased a bit I went back to the doctor and got a prescription for Januvia. So you tell me if you were me would you take Metforman?

I have read all about it and there has never been a conclusive study done only piecemeal ones like this. Let me tell you about studies.

I was on Fosamax and there was a big uproar about it causing a jaw rotting disease . Dentists didn't want to pull teeth and there were studies all over the place. The TV rang with lawyers placing class action lawsuits. Well I did some research and found out there were less than 400 people world wide that got the jaw disease and they were cancer patients who were given massive doses of it. 400 out of the millions who take it. Not 1 lawsuit ever went to court. Do I believe studies--NO--Not unless they are double blind studies with a large group of people and all things are taken into consideration.

I know every diabetic is different so how can anything define what a drug does. I am convinced that Januvia will do me no harm as long as I control my BG. I am not over taxing my pancreas and beta cells by lowering my readings by only a few points. I never had wildly high numbers even before meds nor did I have symptoms of diabetes. My diabetes was caught completely by chance

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What I don't want is to have the side effects of Metforman. I took the first pill--100mg at noon the day I was diagnosed. 5 minutes later I got a stomach ache and nausea that got worse as the day progressed. I called the pharmacy and they suggested I take half a pill until I got used to it. The pain had eased a bit by morning so I took a half pill and was immediately back in pain and nausea and then the diarreha started. That night I made several trips to the bathroom. In the morning I got up and was walking down the hall and it was like a gush of water all over me and the floor. I sat on the toilet and didn't know which end to put over the bowl. I didn't take any more Metforman. When things eased a bit I went back to the doctor and got a prescription for Januvia. So you tell me if you were me would you take Metforman?

I have read all about it and there has never been a conclusive study done only piecemeal ones like this. Let me tell you about studies.

I was on Fosamax and there was a big uproar about it causing a jaw rotting disease . Dentists didn't want to pull teeth and there were studies all over the place. The TV rang with lawyers placing class action lawsuits. Well I did some research and found out there were less than 400 people world wide that got the jaw disease and they were cancer patients who were given massive doses of it. 400 out of the millions who take it. Not 1 lawsuit ever went to court. Do I believe studies--NO--Not unless they are double blind studies with a large group of people and all things are taken into consideration.

I know every diabetic is different so how can anything define what a drug does. I am convinced that Januvia will do me no harm as long as I control my BG. I am not over taxing my pancreas and beta cells by lowering my readings by only a few points. I never had wildly high numbers even before meds nor did I have symptoms of diabetes. My diabetes was caught completely by chance
Did you continue on the Met or stop it after the first few times? My husbands side effects eased up after the first week and were gone at the 2 week point. It also helped him to take it at bedtime to sleep through the nausea aspect of it.

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There is an extended release version of metformin which relieves the worst symptoms, and even those subside within a short time, but that time is usually more than two days. If docs would start patients on the ER version, there'd be a lot less grief over it.

Yes, metformin is well-known for its gastric side effects - most of us experienced some. I'm glad januvia works for you, gram, and I hope you never develop pancreatitis; I'm just sorry there was nobody to teach you a little better about metformin at a time when you needed good honest counsel.




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Did you continue on the Met or stop it after the first few times? My husbands side effects eased up after the first week and were gone at the 2 week point. It also helped him to take it at bedtime to sleep through the nausea aspect of it.

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No I did not continue the met. It made me so sick I thought I was goimg to die even with half a pill. It was more than a bit of nausea. It was severe stomach pains too. Did you read the part about diarreha so bad it was like water after 1 1/2 pills with no warning that I had to go. How could I live like that. I spent that whole morning sitting on the toilet until I felt there was nothing in there to come out. I never ate and had very little sleep for 2 days. Did your husband have that bad a reaction. I don't like you downgrading my reaction to Metforman to what your husband had. A bit of nausea I could handle but not this

Frankly I am tired of being second guessed and told all manner of horror stories. I don't need this so I'm leaving and I won't be back. I am smart enough to make my own decisions and for everyone's information I am not type 1 or type 1.5 I am Type 2. Besides my weight loss I have no symptoms of type 1 or type 1.5 and Januvia works well for me. So bye all I won't be back

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I sympathize with how brutal the side effects of metformin can be in the beginning - for many people it eases quickly, others slowly, and some never adapt.

I had the same gastric side effects you did - exactly. Nobody told me that would happen and I thought I was dying from something else, that my body was liquifying my innards, organs and all, and shedding them in preparation for death. Never experienced anything close to that. Fortunately, my nausea was not as acute.

After switching to ER version the side effects did ease, but it still took a while to completely adapt. It was a rugged go - and I'm not comparing me to you, just annotating my personal experience.

And personally, had I not been able to adapt, insulin was my next choice.

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