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Starting with insulin instead of oral hypoglycemics


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Old 07-22-2010, 00:09   #1
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That's what I did and at least for me it's really a good way to go. I just found again a couple of articles about studies on the topic.

Insulin the First Treatment Choice for Newly Diagnosed Type 2?s

Research Points to New Way to Treat Type 2 Diabetes: Insulin First

In general, diabetics that did use insulin from the start gained less weight and were more satisfied with their treatment.

I read up on the possible side effects of some of the oral medications and they are a little strange. Insulin is quite natural compared to them.

Anyway, not trying to say everyone should do it that way. It's just that you hear a lot of negative things about insulin that aren't true, like the weight gain I bolded.

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Good post, Lia, and I agree, even though I'm one who is still on metformin only. Insulin should not be a "last resort" option. In my opinion, anything that takes the pressure off our pancreas should be made use of - keeping as many beta cells alive & healthy for as long as possible.




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I spent 14 months trying to get insulin, and am still on metformin, probably stay on the met for life. And I have antibodies. Suspect it would 've been even harder if I had not.

Boy, these docs are stubborn!

Intersting about less weight gain, though -- had not read that anywhere yet!

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I started very early (within a couple months of Type 2 diagnosis) using insulin (basal and bolus - MDI, and then insulin pump) and I'd agree it is a great way to gain BG control with minimal side-effects (when compared to oral medications) BUT I do wish I had known sooner about the low-carb approach to minimising insulin requirement, as I did go through a period of rapid and significant weight (excess fat mass) gain.

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I guess that weight gain from taking insulin varies from person to person. I have gained weight from taking insulin. Insulin is a growth hormone. Check out some of the hard core body building websites and there are many people who use insulin as a way to gain weight. You can get some types of insulin without a prescription, so using it to gain weight is not against the law, but I think you should need a prescription to buy it and then maybe it wouldn't be abused by some body builders.

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I spent 14 months trying to get insulin
As breezeonby mentions, you don't need a prescription for at least the basic types of insulin, or for syringes. But also, I would be looking at changing doctors. Or take in the links to these 2 reports. A lot of docs aren't going to keep up on the reading like some of us do.

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I think you should need a prescription to buy it and then maybe it wouldn't be abused by some body builders.
I have had to buy insulin in a different country while I was traveling, so really happy I didn't need a prescription. At least with insulin it would be hard to over do it like some of the supplements.

I don't really understand the 'growth hormone' part of it. Don't think that would work well for muscle building. Nothing has grown for me since I started it, and I use a lot more than the muscle builders could.

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As breezeonby mentions, you don't need a prescription for at least the basic types of insulin, or for syringes. But also, I would be looking at changing doctors. Or take in the links to these 2 reports. A lot of docs aren't going to keep up on the reading like some of us do.
Well, yes, you can ... but I wanted a basal. Those are genetically engineered, and NOT available without prescription.

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Good post, Lia, and I agree, even though I'm one who is still on metformin only. Insulin should not be a "last resort" option. In my opinion, anything that takes the pressure off our pancreas should be made use of - keeping as many beta cells alive & healthy for as long as possible.
Shanny, how do you know when your beta cells are healthy and how many you have?

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Shanny, how do you know when your beta cells are healthy and how many you have?
Not Shanny but: per research, approx 40% of your beta cells remain viable up to diagnosis ... I suspect (wel lreally, I know!) Shanny has good control and that is why she is hanging tough with just met!

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I don't know my science as well as Linda (foxl), but here's a good explanation from our old favorite Blood Sugar 101 . . . I know my beta cells are still kicking out quite a bit of insulin, but just not enough. So using metformin to reduce insulin resistance & keeping to a low-carb diet to reduce the NEED for insulin, allows my pancreas/beta cells to work not-quite-so hard. There are tests to find how much insulin one produces, but I haven't been tested.




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