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Old 02-01-2014, 19:13   #1
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Found this article after a newscast on TV yesterday.Think I have heard it before about gastric operations and diabetes:

New findings on gastric bypass and diabetes - Lund University

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Thanks, Hans!

The first paragraph is interesting (bolding is mine):

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The majority of gastric bypass patients mysteriously recover from their type 2 diabetes within days, before any weight loss has taken place. A study at Lund University Diabetes Centre in Sweden has now shown that the insulin-producing beta cells increase in number and performance after the surgery.
That first sentence is vitally important. Unfortunately, the Lund study, which was used in the article to illustrate this point, involved an extremely small, non-human sampling: four pigs, to be exact.

On a personal note, I have known several individuals (all morbidly obese, but non-diabetic) who had had gastric by-passes. Every single one of them suffered serious complications. Admittedly, I don't know if non-obese, diabetic patients would fare differently.

In addition, I don't believe there are long-term studies on the diabetics who have been surgically "cured."

Therefore, I remain leery of gastric by-passes performed for any reason. However, the fact that more and more evidence points to weight not being a direct cause of diabetes does give me a bit of hope.

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I thought the same thing . . . pigs is a big step up from mice, but still . . .




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Shalynne, I have come to some similar conclusions as you have: A small sample of animals and no long term studies presented yet. A gastric by-pass is also a somewhat drastic method to cure obesity.

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that the insulin-producing beta cells increase in number and performance after the surgery.
An increase in the number of beta cells in one way or another should be a scientific breakthrough for diabetics. I´m a bit skeptical, but also try to have an open mind. Well, you´ll never know, but until then I keep hanging on to my dogma to let the food be my medicine.

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I read that first sentence as surgeons' observations of human patients, with the Lund study used to illustrate what may be happening. If so, I fervently hope better illustrations can be found.

In any case, if my read is correct (i.e., I hadn't put on my rose-colored glasses by mistake), then gastric-bypass surgery may have accidentally uncovered one of the real secrets that lurk behind Type 2.

Now, donning my rose colored-glasses on purpose, that may potentially lead to some actual breakthroughs in understanding.

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The idea of any sort of invasive surgery to 'cure' diabetes gives me the horrors.

You're right Hans, food (the correct food that is) is our medicine.

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Thanks for your comments. The diabetes research in nearby Lund has a good reputation, but sometimes I start to wonder. This was also attended in media some days ago. About high fat and lingonberry, which has a very bitter taste and lots of sugar needed to make it tasty:

Lingonberries halt effects of high-fat diet - Lund University

And here is also a quote from the first line in the final discussion in the full scientific report:

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In this study, we show that intake of certain species of berries can prevent weight gain and counteract the metabolic derangements induced by a high-fat diet.

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My mother had the old school stomach stapling, maybe 35 years ago now. She suffers from malnutrition, still vomits easily from eating more than is allowed, can't keep fatty foods down, gained weight and .... developed diabetes.

I know that the stapling is not the same as the newer "rerouting" that they are doing but still... to go through such a traumatic surgery and suffer for the rest of your life without any benefit... I can't stand to even think of it after watching what it did to her.

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