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Old 03-08-2017, 15:39   #1
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"Diabetes is becoming more common in the United States. From 1980 through 2014, the number of Americans with diagnosed diabetes has increased fourfold (from 5.5 million to 22.0 million)." Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Why do YOU feel these numbers have seen such a substantial increase?

What has changed between 1980 and today?

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It all started here (well actually a decade or so earlier, but this is where the GOVERNMENT jumped into such matters for the first time ever.)

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Titled Dietary Goals for the United States, but also known as the "McGovern Report",[10] they suggested that Americans eat less fat, less cholesterol, less refined and processed sugars, and more complex carbohydrates and fiber.[11] (Indeed, it was the McGovern report that first used the term complex carbohydrate, denoting "fruit, vegetables and whole-grains".[12]) The recommended way of accomplishing this was to eat more fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, and less high-fat meat, egg, and dairy products.
United States Senate Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs

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I have been thinking about this recently, especially in regards to the increase of children being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes.

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Type 2 diabetes is a chronic condition that affects how the body metabolizes sugar (glucose). Over 5,000 people under the age of 20 were diagnosed with type 2 diabetes between 2008 and 2009. Until 10 years ago, type 2 diabetes accounted for less than 3% of all newly diagnosed diabetes cases in adolescents; it now comprises 45% of all such cases. Type 2 Diabetes in Children
Although I certainly see how the crazy nutrition recommendation added to the increase, I don't see it as being the whole story.

When I was a child, kids moved a lot more than they do now. Often time, after school, kids played outside until it was nearly dark. They played, kick the can, kick ball, hide and go seek, and they rode their bikes for hours. Today, many kids will spend hours glued the the television screen or playing video games. By the time my grandson was 3 years old, he knew how to find videos on my iPhone and choose what he wanted to watch.

As amazing as technology is, in my humble opinion, finding balance so that entire generations don't become become almost completely sedentary, is vital.

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I am also curious if there is more added sugar in products today than there were in 1980. I think Starbucks showed up around 1979, and the drinks keep getting sweeter. Did you know that just one Venti Caramel Macchiato has 44g of carbs?

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1. Better diagnostics....I believe both my father and his father were diabetic, but not diagnosed.

2. Baby boomer's are reaching retirement age. We were the most recent generation that did not have to suffer hard times, like the depression, World Wars, etc.

3. Many of us were raised on lots of junk food and as a group I am suspect we are more overweight than previous generations.

As a general comment, I do not believe most of the 'Government' data that is put out! Our Government has been so very corrupt for so very long, that most reports that come out of any of the Federal Agencies, is poorly analyzed if not down right faked ......the motivation here is to draw more funding.....

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1) Plastic in our environment.
2) you dont find what you dont look for... we are testing for diabetes like never befor.
3) We eat more carbs than ever before.

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Fast food. For people who are financially challenged, its cheaper. So is bread and other carb laden stuff. I'm even having trouble sourcing food that I can a) afford and b) need to be eating.

REally crappy dietary guidelines.

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I think it's mostly related to bad diet (high fat and high carbs and high overall calories combined with sedentary lifestyles) and where those poor lifestyle and diet choices are being transmitted socially like a virus. But that's for type 2.

However type 1 incidence is also increasing in children and adults as well.

I've read a bunch of links over the years, including some about skin staph infections which can cause gut dysbiosis which is potentially implicated in both types of diabetes, so it literally could be a sort of "fat cooties". (I don't say that to be mean, I find it scary!).

We are all literally covered in microbes and having elevated blood sugar changes the concentration and types of microbe populations, so it makes sense that diabetics (of either type) have an aura of unhealthiness which can infect family members and friends in close proximity. There's a ton of research going on now with regards to fecal transplants and so diagnosing various diseases by their effect on gut germs can be fruitful.

I mostly blame poor diet as the direct cause, but in that case, then type 1s are also getting more infected through diet, not just more type 2s due to social obesity epidemic.

That's something that people might resist but I think it's possible. I certainly always assumed that if I was thin at the time of diagnosis that meant diet wasn't a factor but there are thin type 2s as well so who knows. I know I did eat a lot of junk food when I was 15 so it's possible. Although I was fit and thin it's totally possible that my beta cells failed due to overexertion caused by excessive sugar intake, or stress, or other malnutrition.

Or who knows, it could be caused by antibiotics too.

They compared incidence of type 1 in Finland vs Russia where they are genetically and environmentally similar (including diet, water supply, etc), and there is a massive six-fold difference between the two countries, which could be related to the amount of antibiotics which are over-prescribed in more western countries.

I am now weary of taking antibiotics, knowing how crucial a healthy gut microbe population is, which they wipe out. So instead of the nonsense: "vaccines cause autism", it could be that "antibiotics cause autoimmune disease" is really true.

Good point about low-carbing being expensive. You basically have to make your own lunch, or eat salad, if you want to be LCHF at work or school. Most "health food" or vegetarian lunch places are basically carb dispensaries.Explains why there are quite a lot of overweight vegetarians, because they think bread, rice and pasta are okay so long as you skip out on the meat. This shows a profound misunderstanding about macronutrient ratios.

The only affordable way to really eat healthy is to make it yourself. Which is expensive is in time and education, which many people are lacking, sadly. I think for every person who "sees the light" about low-carbing, ten more are becoming diabetic every day. It's a losing fight. What they really need to fight it is behaviour-altering drugs. Like something which makes sugar not trigger the same part of the brain as cocaine does. (but worse)

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it could be that "antibiotics cause autoimmune disease" is really true.
Am convinced in my case this has been true.

When I was in my 20's, I got PID (pelvic inflammatory disease) from an IUD. This was a long time ago when IUDs had just come onto the market. The infection was stubborn, and instead of culturing it, they threw antibiotics at it and not being an educated antibiotic consumer I just took them.

I was given 4 different ones, over 3 months, before the infection was gone.

About a year later, I got a sudden searing pain at my groin. Nobody knew what it was, and I required high level of anti-inflammatory to quell it. I would be on crutches or immobilized completely, then in 3-5 days be fine. This then would happen in my wrists, shoulders, random joints, but most frequently my groin, and the attack would come on in a matter of hours.

I went under the care of a rheumatologist, who said it was possible the random tendon attacks would stop, or would turn into RA, or would stay the same. Thankfully in my case it was the former. Took about 10 years.

I told the rheum that considering I was only 30 and really healthy, the antibiotics a year before didn't seem like a coincidence. He agreed.

Do believe that long series of antibiotics is implicated in other related immune health issues I've had/have.

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I have not seen actual scientific data supporting or even suggesting that we are seeing increased numbers of diabetics. Yet it seems to be true, but being a guy that loves Statistics...I prefer data.

Also, I have not seen any data proving a 'correlation' that diet is statistically linked to diabetes, but that too seems logical. But two things that I do know from data is that the 'Baby-boomer' generation that is now mostly retirement age is one of the largest population masses ever!

Therefore, I would hypothesize that if an aging population is a contributor to the diagnosis of diabetes, then the number will be going up just by the fact us 'Boomers' are such of a large mass compared to prior aging generations, of course this is only one potential driving factor. Additionally, I think you have to consider that fact that access to medical care and testing capabilities has been more accessible and excepted by the 'Boomers' than prior generations. Therefore, more diabetes are found in the general population.

I also would hypothesize that we are the first generation to consume extremely high carb diets throughout our lifetimes.

Of course, I do not have the data at my finger tips to validate these comments.

I guess my main point is that to really determine if diabetes is growing per capita and what is driving this, requires a massive amount to research and data to eliminate of the potential factors....unfortunately, I find most 'articles' and so called research to be severely lacking...it is no wonder that the medical profession appears to be somewhat confused on treatments for diabetes....

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