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Old 09-04-2010, 14:25   #11
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Well I can't test myself now at 1 and 2 hours after eating. Apparently I need new batteries in my meter. GRR. Looks like I'll be going to the store today. Actually since the Walmart brand meter and test strips are so cheap, I think I'm going to buy that instead of using my Accu-check Active. I never really liked it anyway. The buttons were sort of confusing at first. And it's pretty slow to switch between readings.

I'll look up the walmart brand and see if I can find any info on it. I heard it was only $10 for the meter.

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people heal much better when there BG are under control. If your recovering from surgery your #1 job is to get better, so having your BG under control is your best option.

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people heal much better when there BG are under controle. If your recovering from sugery your #1 job is to get better, so having your BG under control is your best option.
I agree. But since I'm not yet on a medicine or insulin I have no idea how to control it - other than not eating/drinking sugary things. This is all very new to me. I decided to order batteries online for my meter. I'll have them probably late in the week. So I'll start testing regularly then. Also by then I'll know my new A1C and urine test results.

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Your body makes glucose primarily from carbohydrates. To a slower and less efficient means can also make Glucose from protein and fat.

Mashed potatoes produce a faster BG rise than table sugar. Meaning they are more Glycemic, the higher the Glycemic number the faster BG rises.

ALL carbs raise BG
potatoes, bread, pasta,rice, bananas,sugar,hony... all raise BG fast.

fats,protein,fiber slows the BG rise.
exercise, drugs lower BG (heavy exercise can raise BG)

Its better to start the control of diabetes sooner than later. (I know your Pre, and your not pregnant until the 4th week)

Many believe that the pancreas (makes insulin) wears out from making so much insulin from covering high carb diets. So reducing carbs can help the pancreas out.

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I see. But what do you mean "not pregnant until the 4th week?" Is that sarcasm? I'm confused.

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Yes that is sarcasm.

Your body is having problems controling its BG, You can help it.

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Hello, this is my first post here. I am pre-diabetic according to my A1C (6.2) and fasting blood glucose level (107). I drink one 12-pk of Diet Coke (or Pepsi) a day due to my constant thirst. Yes, it would be wonderful if I could switch to water but I am so addicted to the caffeine and bubbles of soda that I really don't like water at all. I am extremely overweight, at 340 pounds. I am 5'2". Female.

I am wondering if my constant hunger and thirst is a symptom of diabetes. I can eat and be full and then 1.5 hours later or earlier I'm hungry again. I doubt it's "real" hunger but it feels the same to me. Is that normal for being pre-diabetic? I've been like this for quite a few years. Oh, I'm 26 years old.

I am constantly trying to lose weight, mostly unsuccessfully though. I have been on almost every diet under the sun but my downfall is the fact that I'm always hungry. It's so frustrating!

Anyway, I just wanted to introduce myself and ask a few questions. Hopefully someone will be able to help me. Thank you for reading my post.

Brittany
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Yes..those are very much so symptoms of diabetes. Even though your A1c is only 6.2....I would bet money that you are having high blood sugar spikes after eating. It comes down enough between meals that it is keeping your average (A1c) from being too high yet. This one of my big pet-peeves for that "pre-diabetes" diagnosis. Thats like telling someone they are a little bit pregnant! You are...or you arent in my opinion. If you are having high spikes after meals, you can still be causing damage to your body...your eyes, your nervous system...your cardiac system..the list goes on. It is becoming more accepted that blood sugars hovering over 140 for any length of time is causing harm. Did they recommend you to check your blood sugar? Have they given you any advice on a proper diet?

There are basically 4 different types of diabetes.

Gestational diabetes--women who develop insulin resistance during pregnancy

LADA--its sort of a slow onset of type 1...they can often be treated with T2 drugs until their pancreas gives out

T1--is an auto-immune problem where the body has literally attacked the beta cells in the pancreas damaging them to the point that they either produce minute amounts of insuilin or none at all

T2--an insulin resistance problem...sometimes T2 can experience beta cell burnout to where they no longer produce insulin like a T1 (that is me)

I am assuming you are T2. What happens with type 2 is that your pancreas is producing a normal amount of insulin. Insulin is a hormone that sort of grabs up the glucose in your blood and carries it into the cells of your body to be used as fuel. When you have insulin resistance, your insulin grabs the glucose..but when it gets to the cell, the door wont open. So you have all this glucose wandering around in your blood with no place to go. The insulin then does all it can do with it...it stores it in fat cells. Usually in the abdomen and back. Thats why many T2 diabetics tend to gain weight in the belly and still have relatively thin legs.

The gold standard treatment for insulin resistance is a drug called metformin. It works to lower the insulin resistance and allow the cells to take in the glucose like it is supposed to. Moderate exercise is also key...it will also lower your insulin resistance.

One reason diabetes makes you hungry....your cells are literally starving. I dont care if you weigh 500 pounds. The cells are not getting the glucose that they need, either because of insulin resistance, or because you are not making insulin.

My advice to you....if you do not have a meter, get one. If you dont have insurance to help you pay there are some relatively inexpensive ones that are very reliable. Walmart sells one that several people I know use and I believe it is less than 15 dollars and the strips are very reasonable also. I would start out testing before you eat a meal, then at least 2 hours after you eat it. Your blood sugar should be back down to pre-meal levels within 2 hours. If it is not...you ate more carbs than your body can take. Carbohydrates are what increases your blood sugar...not just sweet things. Foods high in carbs like white bread, pasta, potatoes, rice, and some vegetables and fruits are the things you really need to monitor. I would get a good carb counting book and start keeping track of how many carbs you are eating. If you find you are having high blood sugars consistantly after eating a certain number of carbs, then cut back.
A good rule of thumb...imagine your plate in front of you...one half of that plate should be full of healthy veggies...one fourth should be your protein...and the other one fourth your starch. When choosing your starch (carbs) opt for whole grain over white.

Wow...I didnt mean to get so long-winded...I will shut up now and let other people talk

Glad you joined us and please ask any questions you need...someone around here *always* has an opinion

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Brittany? It isn't only sugar and sugary treats that raises your blood glucose . . . anything that contains carbohydrate raises it. Anything at all - starch (carbohydrate) turns to sugar before you ever even swallow, since it is the enzymes in saliva that initiate the conversion.

As has already been discussed, being pre-diabetic is like being a little bit pregnant - not possible. You either are, or you aren't, and your numbers indicate that you are indeed diabetic, regardless of what your doctor may have called it some time in the past.




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Whoops....I see you already have a monitor. Please use it as soon as possible. There is a lot of good nformation on this forum about eating low carb. That is going to be a big step in getting your blood sugar under control. As far as diet soda...I drink diet soda occasionally...but a 12 pack a day is extreme. Thats a lot of aspertame to be drinking. If it is a matter of caffiene there is always iced tea. I drink quite a bit of iced tea actually. There are also some flavored sugar free carbonated waters in some grocery stores. The one by my house sells them, they arent too bad really. I dont usually drink more than one diet soda a day..if that.

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Thank you onaughmae and Shanny. Wow. I had no idea I was missing so much information. Well, I knew I was missing a lot but wow.

I should know more what my current A1C and fasting glucose is in a week, I'll be sure to post here what they are and let you know what my doctor and I have decided to do, if anything. I do know that once my pepsi is gone, I won't be buying it in 12 packs anymore. More like one 20oz once a month - kind of thing, as a treat of some kind.

I tested myself after eating a (whole) medium-sized thin crust oven-baked frozen pizza. Yeah I was a hog. My glucose (when my meter worked before it completely died) was 159. 2 hours earlier it was 155 (with drinking pepsi and no food in the stomach). So I think that's a good sign that my body is able to drop down to pre-meal values even if it's at a high level due to sugary soda/food.

I have a bad habit of eating a whole microwave pizza, i just don't get full easily and I was craving feeling full. Bad, Brittany, bad. I know. But then again I've been skimping on food the past 2 weeks due to my tonsillectomy, uvulectomy and soft pallet reduction (along with septoplasty and turbinoplasty). So eating that much felt so good. :P My throat is finally feeling almost back to normal. Yay.

Anywho. Personally, I'm ready to start whatever medicine my doctor thinks I should be on. I've done lots of research tonight/this morning and am ready for whatever comes my way. I'm ready for the multiple daily readings, the possible insulin shots, and pills.

Well, I'll know more in a week. Thank you all for posting your informative tidbits and sometimes long posts. hehe

I have a better understanding of what is expected of me and my doctor now.

Thank you, again!

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