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Old 01-17-2015, 18:13   #1
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I have now been following LCHF for a couple of weeks since first coming here, meeting some really cool people and starting to learn all about how to live this life. I am currently taking 1.2 of Victoza before bed each night. I've already lost about five pounds since I was first diagnosed on 12/23/14. I work around other Diabetics and I've seen them with bagels and egg rolls, potato chips, etc. This makes me just shake my head. I cannot imagine ever putting any of those things into my body now, even if my levels stay perfect (if I should get to that point). That being said, I often marvel at the fact that LCHF works the way it does, and wonder how can it really be possible? I know I'm fighting 39 years of training that tells me fat is bad to eat, and it's hard to overcome that right away. It's just that when I'm doing things like cooking with Ghee, putting cream in my coffee and having bacon and cheese in my eggs, I feel like I'm committing sins! I also do wonder about my cholesterol. I was always told my triglycerides were high and my good cholesterol was low. Will LCHF ultimately reverse these numbers? I really don't want to end up on a cholesterol drug on top of everything else..

Also, my BG numbers have been steadily declining (I had two consecutive normal range readings yesterday for the first time), but how can I tell if it's the LCHF or the Victoza causing the change in the numbers? I know how many feel about Victoza here, and I do plan to speak with my Endo about Metformin when I see him on February 3rd. He wanted to give me Metformin from the get-go but we hesitated because I have benign tumors on my liver, and Metformin works in the liver. I have had some headaches and nausea this past week, and sensation issues with my feet. It's not a numbness, I can feel everything, but it is sometimes a tingling or on and off feeling of soreness, and sometimes coldness. It had happened earlier in the week, but then yesterday not at all. I'm fairly sure most of that is the Victoza, I know they are all listed as side-effects along with a ton of other stuff. However, I had already been treating one toenail with a prescription, prior to my diagnosis, but I attributed that to the fact that I had always been getting pedicures. I know over time the polish can cause issues due to lack of oxygen to the nail. When I saw my regular Doc the day I was diagnosed, they did a test to check my circulation and said my arteries are good. I will most likely get a referral to a foot doc anyway, because I have read how important it is to take care of my feet now. I have purchased special socks and ordered specialized shoes and sneakers as well. ( Side note, why the heck are most Diabetic shoes so horridly ugly?? )

So, do any of you pros out there have some insight for me? I'll answer any questions if there's something that I failed to mention above, if it will help you better understand my particular situation. Thanks in advance for any advice!

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If you're being selective with the fats you eat, and not using manmade vegetable oils, trans fats or hydrogenated oils, you can rest easy. The good natural saturated and unsaturated fats are healthy, and yes, they will raise your HDL (the 'good' cholesterol) and lower your triglycerides. In fact, your triglyceride levels are directly related to your carb intake, so the fewer carbs you eat, the lower your triglycerides. My husband and I have the lab tests to prove this, and so do many other members of this forum. And you can trust me that the cholesterol drugs (statins) do a lot more harm to your body than good natural fats - my personal experience talking here too.

If I were you, I'd ditch the victoza, but I think we've already been through that. It is the most promoted drug on the market now, so you know the drug companies have a cash cow here, and the docs are being pressured to prescribe it day after day. What we know here is that LCHF will produce the same results by a much safer pathway. There is no need to subject our bodies to these dubious drugs when all we have to do is eat real unprocessed food that hasn't been compromised with meddling of the food industry.

Since I've never had a pedicure, I don't know the drill, but I think they are discouraged for diabetics, because of the sanitary aspect. Not saying your salon isn't clean, but unless they change the soak for each client, unless the technician uses sterile tools for each patient, unless there is NO cutting or planing of callouses, etc., you run the risk of infection. And you're already having issues, so my advice would be to stop the pedicures. It isn't worth the risk.




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Thank you Shanny, you really are a wealth of great information! I have been cooking only with Ghee, and if I run out, I have olive oil in the house. If I am getting any carbs, it's from things like cottage cheese. I have not had any starches or what I now call as 'carb crap' such as bread, pasta, rice, etc. I won't even do the plain greek yogurt, because it showed 7 carbs and 7 sugars, and that just didn't seem right to me. My mornings consist of eggs, cheese, veggies and bacon or possibly sausage. Of course, I don't forget my coffee with HWC hehe. Otherwise, I've been eating different combos of meat and veggies (spinach, celery, cucumbers, tomatoes, romaine, brussel sprouts, etc). One night I pan-fried pork chops in Ghee, and boiled fresh green beans, then sauteed them in Ghee and added garlic and a bit of grated cheese. I would like to think I have a pretty good idea now as far as what I should be eating, but then I am unsure once in a while. For instance, bell peppers? Olives? By the way- just curious, what is your take on sugar free jello?

As far as the pedicures, I haven't been having them at all anymore. I had purchased some foot care stuff before I was diagnosed since I already had the nail problem, so I'll be doing that on my own depending on what the foot doc will say once I see someone.

Another thing I was thinking of, could my headaches be coming from not enough salt? How much is the right amount of salt? I haven't been adding because I feel if my food already tastes salty, I don't want to overdo it. Are there set numbers for how much fat and how much salt we should be taking in per day?

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All of your questions about peppers, olives, etc., can be answered by eat-to-your-meter. As for salt, I use it generously - not quite liberally, but generously. Still, there are times I find things too salty, so my taste buds aren't too jaded yet.




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All of your questions about peppers, olives, etc., can be answered by eat-to-your-meter. As for salt, I use it generously - not quite liberally, but generously. Still, there are times I find things too salty, so my taste buds aren't too jaded yet.
I see what you mean hehe ... Once again, thanks so much for the info!

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Olive oil is a good fat, but not so good when it is heated (oxidizes), so it's not a good choice for frying foods.

Another good fat source is bacon grease - save it when you fry bacon and use it when you fry other meats.

When I fry hamburger, and it's a high-enough fat percentage, I'll drain off the fat, strain it into a bowl, and refrigerate. The fat solidifies and I store it for future use.

I don't buy sugar-free Jello (has aspertame in it and I try to avoid it, along with food dyes). I brew fruity herbal teas, and use that as the flavoring and make my own gelatin using powdered gelatin and my own sweeteners (stevia and sucrulose usually).

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Forgot to mention that I am another one whose HDL raised and Trigs lowered on LCHF. Also, lost a bunch of weight at first and that was only moderate fat. When I went high fat (and stopped eating a lot of protein) I lost the rest of my excess pounds.

Didn't need any medication to do this, either.

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First choice: beef tallow (when I have some that I've rendered)

Bacon grease: for most things except when I don't want a smoky flavor

Coconut oil: with (unrefined) or without (refined) coconut flavor

Palm oil shortening: 100% palm oil - I use this because I can't have any dairy (butter).

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And ghee, of course.




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I know I'm fighting 39 years of training that tells me fat is bad to eat, and it's hard to overcome that right away. It's just that when I'm doing things like cooking with Ghee, putting cream in my coffee and having bacon and cheese in my eggs, I feel like I'm committing sins! I also do wonder about my cholesterol. I was always told my triglycerides were high and my good cholesterol was low. Will LCHF ultimately reverse these numbers? I really don't want to end up on a cholesterol drug on top of everything else..
Shanny's 1st reply answers all your queries. I'd just "ditto" all of that.

Going against ingrained established ideas is a tough ask, and in the beginning all of us were as confounded as you say you are. Your own experimentation will be your best teacher, and that will eventually make you throw all that food/pharma industry sponsored jargon into the trash can.

I just want to add, that you can expect your triglycerides to drop like a shooting star within days of eating LCHF. Your HDL will take anything between 6-12 months to see a slow rise. Keep that in mind and don't be disappointed if you don't see the desired numbers in the first go.

Good Luck.

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