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Old 02-07-2018, 20:37   #1
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I feel very sick and run down and don't know what to do anymore. I am very thin and try to live a healthy lifestyle but have been suffering from constant headaches, thirsy all of the time even though it varies day to day, urinating alot and just constant fatigue. Had this for about a month after I went to the go who ordered some blood tests and my hba1c was 43. Told me there is nothing to worry about and then sent me home. Now I am very lost and have lost hope in everything after going to several doctors and they keep telling me that I am okay. Had my blood sugars tested yesterday 2 hours after eating and it was 9.8 but the go just blamed it on the rice I had eaten.
I am at a loss right now and don't know what to do?
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I feel very sick and run down and don't know what to do anymore. I am very thin and try to live a healthy lifestyle but have been suffering from constant headaches, thirsy all of the time even though it varies day to day, urinating alot and just constant fatigue. Had this for about a month after I went to the go who ordered some blood tests and my hba1c was 43. Told me there is nothing to worry about and then sent me home. Now I am very lost and have lost hope in everything after going to several doctors and they keep telling me that I am okay. Had my blood sugars tested yesterday 2 hours after eating and it was 9.8 but the go just blamed it on the rice I had eaten.
I am at a loss right now and don't know what to do?
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That's terrible Timber 1 running a hba1c of 43 is at about 6.1% but if you hit a BG reading of 9.8, 2 hours after eating rice tells me your body is not making enough insulin to keep a normal BG level.

I checked your profile to see where you live as I suspect some areas of the world are a little better at treating and diagnosing diabetes than others but you didn't indicate that.

If I was in your predicament (with the knowledge I have now) I would keep careful track of what you're eating to measure what foods spike your BG Levels. Do you have a Glucomter and test strips? If not and if it's within your means to buy one I would.

If you're a Type 2 you should be able to record what foods to stay away from and which foods have a minimal affect. If you're type 1 LADA than it's likely your BG levels will continue to increase as your own pancreatic production of insulin diminishes.

It could very well be that your physical activity during the days keep your BG levels border line but when you sleep they are spiking. As your body isn't used to this it will display diabetes symptoms like the fatigue, constant urination and headaches.

Test yourself to see what your BG trends are for morning, afternoon and night. Ask around in whatever place you live for any doctors who are considered knowledgeable in diabetes (as many are not).

Let us know what you normally eat during the day - some of us may be able to give you more meaningful feedback.

I hope these suggestions help.

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Hello, Timber1! Welcome to the forums.

The symptoms you mentioned frequently are associated with diabetes, so it's good that you got tested. Your 43 really is not a bad number (some of us here would be happy with an a1c at that level).

But your symptoms also are associated with other illnesses, so I'm surprised that your doctor did not order other tests to identify what the problem is if it isn't diabetes.

The folks who post here know a great deal about diabetes, but we're not doctors. The best advice I think we can offer is to see a different doctor, knowing that these tests do not seem to indicate problems with high blood glucose.

You mentioned testing your blood glucose after a meal. Do you have a meter? If you do, it might be instructive to chart your blood glucose levels when you wake up (but before you eat anything) and then after meals. a1c is a decent indicator of overall blood glucose levels, but it does not show whether that level is in very tight control or whether high highs and low lows average out to what looks like a good number. A roller coaster of blood glucose levels could cause the symptoms you're experiencing. But a doctor should be able to tell you for sure.

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Hi Timber1, as others suggest, if you have a meter, you should test. Testing immediately before a meal then again at 1 hour and 2 hours after first bite should shed some light on what is going on. A1c and fasting are sometimes the very last numbers that indicate diabetes. Those are usually the numbers doctors go by, but if your after meal numbers are going high, it will only be a matter of time before the A1c and fasting numbers will follow. If your post meal numbers are high then it would be in your best interest to head it off before the other numbers go up.

You mention several doctors keep telling you that you are OK, like itissteve, I am surprised that they did not offer any idea what else could be causing the issues you are having. Another test they can run to diagnose type 2 diabetes is called an OGTT, oral glucose tolerance test. If your after meal numbers are high, keep track of the test results and what you are eating at each meal and present that to the doctor and ask for them to run an OGTT, that should rule in or rule out diabetes as being a probable cause.

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you mentioned feeling terrible, headaches, and frequent urinating. when i was diagnosed with t2 diabetes, those were my symptoms.

you are different, because my fasting glucose was over 20 after a full night sleep, but you glucose is less than 10 after eating rice.

it is possible that your headache and feeling terrible is from dehydration. what did the doctor say about your frequent urinating, please tell me that they were concerned about it.

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I do not have a blood sugar monitor but my GP suggested that I come back 2 hours after eating. I am 17 and I don't think the hba1c reflected my sugars as I had only been having symptoms for a few weeks. What can I do?

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The doctor was a little concerned but because my urine didn't show any glucose present he just dismissed it and told me I am just stressed.

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I do not have a blood sugar monitor but my GP suggested that I come back 2 hours after eating. I am 17 and I don't think the hba1c reflected my sugars as I had only been having symptoms for a few weeks. What can I do?
If doctors are unwilling to do more tests without cause, you need to work to eliminate variables.

If doctors believe you're simply dehydrated, you can make sure you're hydrated -- with water. You should be drinking enough water so that your urine is nearly clear. Don't overdo it. But you should drink enough water regularly over many days or 2-3 weeks to rule out your symptoms as "dehydration".

The diagnosis of "stress" is a little harder to rule out because it is so nebulous. Are you under stress? Classes, financial issues, family issues, etc.? You don't have to publicize any of that; just assess your stress level honestly. Stress can affect blood glucose levels and not for the better.

Another option after addressing the first two is the one mbuster mentioned: ask the doctor for an oral glucose tolerance test (OGTT).

If they drag their feet on that: in the US no prescription is required to buy a glucose meter and strips. If you can purchase your own you can test your blood glucose more rigorously. At least in the US a meter and enough strips to start with can cost as little as US$20 (~£15). It sounds like it will be important to test your blood glucose particularly before and a couple of hours after meals. Record your readings as you measure the carbs you consume and you'll be able to graph carbohydrate intake and the resulting blood glucose levels.

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At least in the US a meter and enough strips to start with can cost as little as US$20 (~£15). It sounds like it will be important to test your blood glucose particularly before and a couple of hours after meals. Record your readings as you measure the carbs you consume and you'll be able to graph carbohydrate intake and the resulting blood glucose levels.
I don't know about the UK but in Canada you can usually get a meter for free as the manufacturer wants to sell consumables (the test strips). In Canada 100 strips usually run around $85 CDN or 48 GBP. Hopefully it's affordable in the UK.

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