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Old 11-23-2012, 22:56   #21
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Hi TeddySue,

I'm a multipurpose human, I can drink and water the lawn at same time from all the finger pricks etc. And I don't mind a bit, I felt great.
Now I'm a rollercoaster and alot less tolerant of peoples rude behavior, would ya like to come for dinner and be my witness, giggle?
Unfortunately they wouldn't learn and I Would have to resort to peanut butter & applebutter sandwich stashed in my bag,

My dear type 1 friend asked if I went and heaped food on my plate to show them, no then I would have been sick and they're just not worth it.

I just get really tired of either food comments or people testing me... lets go get a frappe' no one will know... they don't understand, some mean well.

I usually smile and question loudly if ignorance is truly bliss??

I wonder if Drs and such realize if we don't test, we can be more of an expense.
Prevention is hard when are hands are tied.
I've been told the worst is yet to come
The testing supplies and durable medical will get more restricted so I'm calling Senators, legislatures, ADA, spreading hate & dissention I suppose, hopefully its worth it.

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Hi David,

I use split basal (lantus) 2x a day, and novalog 3-4 x's a day!
How are non-pump users supposed to know where they are at?
Legislation argh! How many are diabetics in true control!
I have a man nearby who tests twice a day, believes his normal is 250 and eats pain meds all day & sleeps because of his neuropathy, but he can eat what he wants that's what insulin is for and he won't let diabetes engulf his life????
No I have not told him its obviously engulfed his brain...
Tired of diabetics being controlled by those who know not what it takes.
I'm going to fight this battle,
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I just started splitting my Lantus morning and night and my doctor had a fit! For me, it doesn't last 24 hours and I need more in the daytime than at night. I don't use anything else but Lantus and low carb diet.
I hate that word control! I've spent my whole life being controlled by my parents and then my husband (no more) and now, I have to be controlled by egotistic doctors who feel threatened by my ability to keep my numbers down? She thinks under 100 is dangerous?
What do you mean, Legislation?
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It's possible there are some doctors & other medical professionals who recognize the disconnect between testing and good management, but they aren't the ones calling the shots anymore. Since way back in the '80s the insurance companies, drug companies & other bureaucrats took control and by now docs don't make a move that isn't approved by insurance, and they are actually monitored to make sure they're prescribing all the high-priced drugs (i.e. the craze to prescribe statins? Yep, that's the kind of monitoring I'm talkin' about). Agencies like the ADA require them to promote the party line or risk their jobs in some cases. No, it's been a long time since docs were allowed to treat their patients using their own knowledge, wisdom and intelligence.

My new response to unwanted comments is now: 'and your point is . . .?' and when they explain their point, my response is: 'and this is important because . . . ?' Snarky? Maybe - but certainly no more so than their meddling interference.




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I wonder the other factor in all this is litigation. Are the doctors afraid that if they "allow" a patient to go under the ADA guidelines and the patient went into a serious hypo, the doctor could be sued?

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I wonder the other factor in all this is litigation. Are the doctors afraid that if they "allow" a patient to go under the ADA guidelines and the patient went into a serious hypo, the doctor could be sued?
I do think this is what's happening, especially in what I've seen in my past two doctor's behavior: they both seem scared of something; one even stated that she has to document everything she does and that the insurance companies demand certain things.
So where does that leave those of us who do not follow the ADA set numbers or diet? I don't want my numbers to be 150 but my doctor swears by the number 7 for A1C and up to 150 but not lower than 100.
I feel very intimidated ...
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TS,

In my furor of being told I'm not that diabetic and all the rest of the insults by my Dr including stopping my testing 8 x a day... I started making calls, the amount we're allotted monthly for our durable medical is pr-decided by legislature.
(Searching for the link.)
Legislature, state & federal, determines the reasonable amount insurance needs to provide us and still be able to make a profit.
Our allowable reasonable amount is 3 test strips a day. If a doctor "chooses" to give us more, they have to have it pr-authorized by insurance companies.
From what was explained to me, since the elections Drs are now being "dinged"
For doing so.
Many small "home" pharmacies can't afford the fee set out by, I believe state requirements, in order to be able to bill insurance companies for diabetic supplies therefore they can only sell insulin, not the testing supplies or syringes.

I too despise the "control" issues out there. Same instances you described.

I don't like my health being controlled by someone else's greed.

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In my furor of being told I'm not that diabetic and all the rest of the insults by my Dr including stopping my testing 8 x a day... I started making calls, the amount we're allotted monthly for our durable medical is pr-decided by legislature.
(Searching for the link.)
Legislature, state & federal, determines the reasonable amount insurance needs to provide us and still be able to make a profit.
Our allowable reasonable amount is 3 test strips a day. If a doctor "chooses" to give us more, they have to have it pr-authorized by insurance companies.
From what was explained to me, since the elections Drs are now being "dinged"
For doing so.
Many small "home" pharmacies can't afford the fee set out by, I believe state requirements, in order to be able to bill insurance companies for diabetic supplies therefore they can only sell insulin, not the testing supplies or syringes.

I too despise the "control" issues out there. Same instances you described.

I don't like my health being controlled by someone else's greed.

Hugs
That's why I buy my extra test strips on eBay and test as much as needed.
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EHB, where are you from? You haven't told us, so we are unable to comment.




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It's possible there are some doctors & other medical professionals who recognize the disconnect between testing and good management, but they aren't the ones calling the shots anymore. Since way back in the '80s the insurance companies, drug companies & other bureaucrats took control and by now docs don't make a move that isn't approved by insurance, and they are actually monitored to make sure they're prescribing all the high-priced drugs (i.e. the craze to prescribe statins? Yep, that's the kind of monitoring I'm talkin' about). Agencies like the ADA require them to promote the party line or risk their jobs in some cases. No, it's been a long time since docs were allowed to treat their patients using their own knowledge, wisdom and intelligence.

My new response to unwanted comments is now: 'and your point is . . .?' and when they explain their point, my response is: 'and this is important because . . . ?' Snarky? Maybe - but certainly no more so than their meddling interference.
Good for you, I like snarky!
The last legislation was in 2011, its nuts and wrong.
However, it may have just fallen between the cracks as w education of diabetes.

There are Drs who are fighting for us to have our supplies. There are those who don't understand the disease as well. Then there are those who just do what they're told.

If I hadn't the support of diabetic friends and the knowledge in this group I may not have realized myself how to manage.

And its not like were doing illegal things w our supplies,

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Hi pat,

I'm from Montana,

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