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Old 07-12-2013, 04:35   #31
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I think it's totally defeating the purpose of why most of us are here.

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The problems with high fat are when they're both unhealthy fats and coupled with high carbs, which is always the case in the typical American diet. People go on diets to eliminate fat, but not to eliminate carbs, yet heart disease gallops along in spite of all the statins prescribed.

You're right that diabetics have a higher rate of heart disease, but that maps to A1C levels not cholesterol.

Diabetes Update: Insight into Why A1c Correlates So Strongly with Heart Attack
The article you cited was quite interesting.

I noted the article and its supporting references did not support the idea of a high fat diet. I also noted the article and its supporting references did not support the idea of eliminating carbs. Instead, the articles suggest maintaining a low A1c. I know a low A1c is attainable with carbs in ones diet.

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A low A1C might be attainable with a large amount of carbs in one's diet, but not for everyone. Carbs raise blood sugar, and every persons threshold for when that happens is different. I know some diabetics who eat things that the mere smell of would spike me to high heaven! (Granted I do not know their A1C, they might be higher then they want to be). I have to reduce my carb level very low in order to control my blood sugar, which in turn lowers my A1C, which reduces my heart attack risks.

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Oh, if I could eat more than 30-40 carbs/day and control my blood sugar without meds I would do it in a heartbeat!

The problem the majority of diabetics have is maintaining good blood sugar and A1Cs in normal range. Endocrinologists will back me up. However control can be done is each person's choice, but I'm not willing to take meds that further compromise my pancreas to get there. With my level of insulin resistance, I would have to take a lot of meds in order to eat >100 grams of carbs and still would not have the control I do.

I have plaque issues from undiagnosed diabetes and eating too high a carb diet. My diet was low-fat for years, hence the carb overload. My retinologist told me I have artery hardening beyond my years, and it is not from eating fat.

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My retinologist told me I have artery hardening beyond my years, and it is not from eating fat.
The exact same thing happened to my mom. When we were kids (70's - 80's), low fat was all the hype. Mom didn't know any better, and the doctor she had access to really wasn't an asset, in any way, in her diabetes management. I sadly now see all of the damage that's been caused. She's had a few complications, and her eye damage is irreversible. When we were kids, it was carbs - carbs - carbs.

And I'd be right there with you, with the carbs. If I could eat any substantial amount of carbs, (like, even more than 25-30) and not see a substantial increase in BG, I'd be the first one reaching for the homemade apple pie. Medication and low carbs are the only way I can have somewhat normal control over my BG.

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Perhaps a viewing of this video and its accompanying slide show will help provide some food for thought

http://www.atthelimits.org/multimedi...=timothynoakes

And just in case you would like to know more about he speaker, Dr. Noakes, here's a link to his professional biography page

http://www.ssisa.com/pages/science--...noakes/?prev=1

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Oh, if I could eat more than 30-40 carbs/day and control my blood sugar without meds I would do it in a heartbeat!

The problem the majority of diabetics have is maintaining good blood sugar and A1Cs in normal range. Endocrinologists will back me up. However control can be done is each person's choice, but I'm not willing to take meds that further compromise my pancreas to get there. With my level of insulin resistance, I would have to take a lot of meds in order to eat >100 grams of carbs and still would not have the control I do.
Insulin could get you good blood glucose and A1c levels. How does insulin compromise one's pancreas?

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I'm fortunate not to have to use insulin, as I'd rather not deal with the issue of lows, and with my insulin resistance, I'd still need to eat low-carb so not to experience damaging blood glucose swings. Insulin can't be used just to 'cover carbs' and expect good health as a result - not for T2s like me, and not even for many T1s.

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Mr. Weston, I really think you need to read some of the back posts on this forum. Open your mind to new ways. Very few on this forum are radical FAT only people; most are concentrating on getting control of their blood sugar and reducing the amount of medication (including insulin) they have to use. HF/LC eating works for most of us. If you have a problem with it, try coming back when you are reading to hear.

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Also please check out the Blood Sugar 101 site, which has a lot of very good info.

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