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Old 08-30-2013, 20:51   #11
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ok, so the doubling my met dose was the question and everyone has dodged that by coming up with some way low carb numbers. I count all my carbs. My big lunch salad today by weight comes up to 2 veggie servings or 30 carbs.
I believe I answered the metformin in my second post right after you asked. You may not have seen or understood.

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Metformin can only do so much. If increasing the dose didn't help while eating the same amount of carbs, then reduce the dose and see what happens.

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Jbrown, that would be the max for me per day!

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Okay, since you accuse us of dodging the issue, here is the truth as plainly as I can say it: Doubling your met dose is not going to help you one damn bit if you continue eating all the carbs you're eating. Full Stop.




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ok, so the doubling my met dose was the question and everyone has dodged that by coming up with some way low carb numbers. I count all my carbs. My big lunch salad today by weight comes up to 2 veggie servings or 30 carbs.
Not trying to be rude here, but why is the met not working is the wrong question, it should be why is the A1c high. That is because of the number of carbs your eating. You are like me, and I am not "NORMAL" anymore, I have diabetes. I cannot tolerate carbs. If you're unwilling to find the truth and are in search of something to continue eating as you are and lower your blood sugar, then there are several things out there that will do just that, but the side effects are not pretty, and most just finish killing your own insulin producers (beta cells) that are already malfunctioning. My recommendation would be the same - work on what you can do something about.

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I may be having a PMS moment, need more broccoli. Is that possible MCS? You forewarned me.

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I was hoping someone had a similar experience with upping their met dose. Since I see people answering that are on over a 2000mg dose I know they didn't start there. I was hoping to hear how upping a met dose helped or didn't help someone's A1c.

As far as I know, for the last year, grain to me is only that stuff growing in a field, I don't eat it but once a month maybe. My main carbs are all veggies and some milk. I eat less carbs than what the dieticians told me. Since I already ate breakfast and lunch and I know what the plan for dinner is I know I will finish the day at 5 carbs - 75g. What do you eat for a 30g day, I can't do that on veggie intake alone.

I am 42 5'5" and 150lbs I have no family history and I was 165lbs when I got diagnosed. For me this is also a search for the why all my indicators don't say type 2 but my bs does.

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There are threads of all kinds around here, detailing the things we eat to stay under 30-50 grams (NOT 15g servings!) per day. The Diet/Nutrition board has four stickies at the top where people post what they ate for these meals/snacks. Our Recipes board is loaded with very low carb dishes which are substantial and delicious. Shottlebop devotedly posts his daily intake on this thread. You've already been offered the LCHF website, and I think it bears mentioning that low-carb goes hand-in-hand with high-fat. When we reduce carbs, we reduce the fuel available for energy. When we raise fats consumption, we increase the fuel available for energy, and fats for fuel does not raise our blood sugar. Win-win, see?

It's good that you've given up grains, but if you're still eating fruit, milk & starchy vegetables, you're still shooting yourself in the foot. Some people are willing to accept wisdom from others who have traveled the same path before them, but others have to learn the hard way. I hope you aren't one who has to learn the hard way, because time's awasting, and your eyes, kidneys and extremities are suffering damage every day that you spend above 140 (7.8).




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So, jbrown, what are all the "other indicators" you speak of, and what are their levels compared with what you want them to be? You've not said yet, and that might help.

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Please don't send me any more 'carb' answers. I am interested in peoples experience with increasing their met dose only, which is why I posted in the treatment forum.

So I looked up Shottlebop's day and added the carbs from some quick internet research. Of course he doesn't post the qty's of most items so I assumed the standard "serving" It all adds up to 73g I expect my day since I still use the apparently broken system of carb servings, where I round up, to end up at 5 servings or 75g. He has 30g in avocados alone. I have a feeling that there is somewhere that I missed where one carb is evil and another doesn't count.

Breakfast: avocado(12g), two Applegate uncured hot dogs, fresh collard greens (11g), 1 oz.double cream brie, coffee with coconut cream

Lunch (Matisse Bistro): bunless burger with cheddar, sliced tomato and avocado(12g), side salad (6g)(greens, shredded carrot, cherry tomatoes, olive oil)

Dinner: BLT salad (1/2 small avocado, 6 slices turkey bacon, several (12-15) cherry tomatoes(7g), crumbled feta)(side salad+1/2 avocado=12g), 3 oz. organic Sonoma Valley pepperjack, low-carb chocolate ice cream (13g)

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