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Old 09-28-2011, 12:11   #101
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Have you thought about/tried Victoza? I've heard decent things about it, and it does usually result in weight loss as well


Doc had me on this . Made me feel bad really bad. I hated it. Then medicare sent me a letter & said they won't pay for it. well ghezz ,good, cuz I don't want it.

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I did speak to the doctor about Victoza. She said that right now (and meaning before I started the basal/bolus insulin) that Victoza was really not an option because the main side effect of it was pancreatitis. My triglycerides are still considered very high (465 at last blood draw in August, but down from last year at almost 7000!), and she would fear that I would have a stroke from the combination. Therefore, she told me insulin was the way to go right now to get the numbers down, and then we will worry about any weight gain at that time when everything leveled out. It is kind of scary because when the doctor's say things like this, it makes me afraid to put anything in my mouth, and I know that can be worse than eating something bad. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Story of my life I swear! And yes, I agree with you that you and I are experiencing the same difficulties where the bg's and weight are concerned. But, we will get there. Hold my hand and we can do this together~!!! It is funny, today for example my morning bg was 189 (actually pretty good for me since I'm always 200 and above; even with the insulin). I took my bolus shot this morning along with Metformin and supplements. I ate an egg, cheese, and ham whole wheat wrap that I had left over from lunch yesterday. I ate this same exact thing for lunch and it did not throw bg's up that much, so I thought it would be fine for breakfast today too. I just took my bg after two hours and it's 279! I think I have difficulty because my body keeps reacting to the same thing differently depending on the time of day I eat it. Wow. Let's make this more difficult for me! It's depressing sometimes, but keep on truckin right?

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It's a very common diabetic quirk that we can't tolerate carbs in the morning . . . I'd have had the same results as you, naynay - fine at lunch but not for breakfast. It's just something you have to take into account and try not to eat any carbs for breakfast.




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It's a very common diabetic quirk that we can't tolerate carbs in the morning . . . I'd have had the same results as you, naynay - fine at lunch but not for breakfast. It's just something you have to take into account and try not to eat any carbs for breakfast.
I know...I should have known better, but I thought because my fbg was a little lower than I've had and I bolused according to my instructions it would not have jumped. Live and Learn! Thanks for that response though Shanny...Gosh...I really miss eating biscuits with honey and butter in the AM. I actually probably couldn't tolerate the biscuit at all now! Oh well...at least it lives on in my memory

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One question that I ponder - do meds obscure what diet and exercise alone can do? I suspect that is the case.

So many questions! So few answers!!!
i have ben off med s i am gessing about a year now . i have ben watching my portion size .

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i was diagnose 2009. my readings at the start were in the 20s fbs my insulin to start at 19 on my lantus pen. i also taken half glyberide morning and at night. half way throuth 2009 i was off the lantus. the glyberide down to a half in a day. in 2010 i went off the glyberide. i portion size what i eat. i have lost 20 pounds this way. my AC1 5.0 in 2009. my up date .I have been of meds since 2010 . my AC1 in 2010 was a 5.0 fbg . now 2014 I am at 7.0 fbg . iam having highs and lows going on .
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Pre-D here, dx almost two years ago. No meds "so far". Low carb at first with lots of testing, now moderate carb JUDDD.

Lost and kept off 40 pounds in first six months, then holding steady. Still need to lose 100 more. *grumble*

A1C holding pretty steady around 5.8. Lipid profile VERY good. Most fastings still in the one-teens. 2 hour PP numbers usually between 110 and 130, when I test (not as often as I used to).

Almost no exercise; I have mobility issues and can't deal with the pain. When I CAN exercise regularly, it's been the only time my FBG has been under 110.

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you are doing great keep it up .

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i was diagnose 2009. my readings at the start were in the 20s fbs my insulin to start at 19 on my lantus pen. i also taken half glyberide morning and at night. half way throuth 2009 i was off the lantus. the glyberide down to a half in a day. in 2010 i went off the glyberide. i portion size what i eat. i have lost 20 pounds this way. my AC1 5.0 in 2009. my up date .I have been of meds since 2010 . my AC1 in 2010 was a 5.0 fbg . now 2014 I am at 7.0 fbg . iam having highs and lows going on .
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I tried it for about 2 days when I ran out of Metformin at one point. Took everything I had on hand.. (gymnema sylvestre, bitter melon, chromium, ALA (which made me nauseous as HELL), cinnamon), and guess how much it took off? 10.. points. THAT'S IT. Kinda pointless for me, sadly.

But then again, by the time I was diagnosed, I must have been diabetic for quite some time. I was diagnosed with A1c of 12 and BG of 299. It would have stayed undetected had it not spilled into my urine during my routine yearly gyne visit. My numbers dropped about 1/2 way while on 2000mg of Metformin, numbers ranged between 120~190. I was on a VERY low carb, high fat diet then, but sadly, it barely made a dent for me? I'm certain that if my condition was caught earlier, I could have stayed drugfree for some time? In any case, my doc gave me 2.5g of glipizide a day to keep things low, and my numbers now range from 90~125ish. If things start creeping up too much, I'll probably switch to insulin? So I suppose it depends on the severity of your condition. Pre and diabetes caught early may have a chance of doing well?

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my reading to day is 7.3 fbg .

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i was diagnose 2009. my readings at the start were in the 20s fbs my insulin to start at 19 on my lantus pen. i also taken half glyberide morning and at night. half way throuth 2009 i was off the lantus. the glyberide down to a half in a day. in 2010 i went off the glyberide. i portion size what i eat. i have lost 20 pounds this way. my AC1 5.0 in 2009. my up date .I have been of meds since 2010 . my AC1 in 2010 was a 5.0 fbg . now 2014 I am at 7.0 fbg . iam having highs and lows going on .
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I tried it for about 2 days when I ran out of Metformin at one point. Took everything I had on hand.. (gymnema sylvestre, bitter melon, chromium, ALA (which made me nauseous as HELL), cinnamon), and guess how much it took off? 10.. points. THAT'S IT. Kinda pointless for me, sadly.
These things wouldn't work so fast. Holistic approach is a long drawn path where even the body has to be toned for these things to have effect. That's my experience.

 
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