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Old 08-05-2011, 05:38   #31
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Thanks again!!
I'm hangin' in there and will keep reading all the posts and info on Blood Sugar 101.
I greatly appreciate all the support.

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MsTCB,

OMG!!! I can't believe what your doctor has put you through. I totally agree with Moon & the rest in this forum...Get yourself a NEW doctor!!!

My suggestion is to go to an Endocrinologist. They are specialist in the Endocrine System, which includes the pancreas, thyroid, adrenal glands, the pituitary & the sex organs (the ovaries & testicles). Basically, any gland/organ that produces hormones.

Why, I am suggesting an Endocrinologist, is that you have been left untreated, since your diagnoses in 1997. Yes, there are many excellent Internal Medicine physicians who handle Diabetic patients, but, I think, the good ones would recommend you to an Endocrinologist, due to all that has been going on with you. In my opinion, your case needs an Endocrinologist.

I would suggest that your new doctor check your thyroid, as well. Low thyroid levels, could account for you not being able to lose weight. Plus, it is another endocrine gland & it honestly seems like, when one of the glands goes out of whack, the other glands can be affected.

I am no expert, by any means. However, I have a husband who is a Type 2, on insulin & who is highly insulin resistant. I am a Type 2, as well, but I am only on Metformin 850mg, twice daily. Plus, I worked in the Surgical Field for over 25 years, seeing what can happen to the body, when you have Diabetes & all of the special attention paid to Diabetic patients, when they are in the Operating Room.

I am still appalled at your doctor, for not treating you. It doesn't matter that he is a D.O.. Believe me, I have worked with some of the best surgeons in the world & many of them were D.O.s. I have also, worked with some of the worst surgeons that were M.D.s & really shouldn't have been in practice, ok? It honestly boils down to this, your doctor is a complete medical idiot. There, I said it.

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MsTCB,

I humbly apologize, for my previous post. I missed reading many posts, when I wrote it. I simply didn't see that there were about 4 pages of posts & responded to the last entry on the first page. I didn't see all that happened, since your first post.

Please, forgive me. My thoughts & prayers are with you, right now.

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Thank you Mme Moxie for your wonderful advice.
Don't know if I mentioned it or not, but I also have Thyroid Cancer so my Thyroid gland was totally removed. I have to taken high doses of Thyroid medication to both replace my missing Thyroid gland and suppress any Thyroid cells which are presumed to be cancerous.

I appreciate hearing about your experience in the medical profession. I just saw a Surgeon today about my Splenic Artery Aneurysm that was recently caught on an X-ray. He ordered a CT scan and said he wouldn't do any kind of medical intervention unless the CT shows the size is greater than 2 cm.
I got the impression he thought I was a high risk patient for surgery.
You mentioned "special attention paid to Diabetics in the Operating Room"
Can expand on that for me?
I'm curious about how Diabetes effects surgery and vice versa.

Thanks to the wonderful folks of this forum I mustered up the courage to boldly ask to put on Metformin ER. This is my 2nd week on it and my fasting BG's are already down 100 points (from 360's to 260's. I also have an appt with an Endo Doc on August 29th.

The surgeon asked why my Diabetes was so out of control and I told him that my Doc just now started giving me meds for it and that he had been treating it with Cinnamon and Krill Oil supplements, but they obviously weren't enough. He thought I was joking at first. He said, "Cinnamon? really? Cinnamon to treat out of control Diabetes? Are you serious?" Then, his nurse spoke up and backed me up and said that's sounds just like Dr. T. - he will try vitamins and supplements and send you to the health food store for treatment.

I'm so glad I found this forum.
Thanks again for all the wonderful help.

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Thanks, MsTCB, for being so understanding.

Yes, after I wrote my initial response, I read about your having Thyroid Cancer. What stuck me, was that you seem to have developed Diabetes, after your thyroid surgery. I too, was diagnosed with Diabetes, after I had my thyroid radiated, in Oct. 1995. I have Graves' Disease. I am now on thyroid medications just like you are, after taking the radiation pill. It killed the 'bad cells' & seems as though it 'killed' some good ones, too. Now, I am on a fairly low dosage, 137mg of levothyroxine. It seems as though, what I said about one endocrine gland being 'messed up', can cause more endocrine issues, down the line, is true.

Now, to your question, about the 'special attention' to diabetics in surgery.

First & foremost, it is paramount that a diabetic's blood sugars be maintained, during surgery. IV fluids are taken into account, when you are diabetic. In other words, the frequently used Lactated Ringers with Dextrose is not necessarily given, because of the Dextrose, which is a sugar. Also, it is not uncommon for Diabetics to have heart problems. (Believe me, I know this to be true, from husband's experience.) So, good solid work-ups & testing prior to surgery are essential.

During surgery, basic surgical techniques are used, little or no blood loss, doing the procedure in as little time, as possible (this is for all surgical patients), & using suturing (sewing materials) techniques to heal, as quickly as possible.

Now, the anesthesiologist is the one who is monitoring all of a patient's vital signs, including blood sugars & any other Diabetic issues. This is what I meant, saying 'special attention'. Normally, they don't monitor 'blood sugars' or anything that is related to Diabetes.

I can tell you, that Diabetics normally do very, very well in surgery. I believe, this is due to all of the 'special attention', that they receive. Plus, the good solid testing & work-up, before surgery.

I honestly know, just how frightening surgery can be, I have been a surgical patient myself, several times. But, I can tell you this, in all of the acute hospitals that I have worked at, the Anesthesiologists have all been excellent & very competent. I also, include the surgeons, no matter the specialty.

From the sound of what the surgeon is saying, he is being very cautious. This is the way it should be. You have lots of issues, that might need to be addressed, before any surgery is done. An excellent surgeon never wants to do surgery, unless is it absolutely necessary, bottom line!!!

I think, you are on the way to better health care. When you see the Endocrinologist, I would ask him/her to recommend a good Internal Medicine doctor to manage your overall health. I have found that Internal Medicine doctors, usually work well with other specialties & are excellent managers of your overall health care,

Again, my thoughts & prayers are with you, during this time. I also, know that prayers do work. I have seen the results in many, many surgeries that I was involved in.

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12.1? Wow, that needs to be treated seriously by your doctor as much as your anurism. Do not just accept what this one doctor had to say about your diabetes treatment. In this case a second opinion may be wise. An A1c that high is not something to let go for long and it is high enough to represent a serious danger to your long term health.

Discuss this blood sugar level with your doctors who are overseeing your anurism, maybe they will intervene (or at least get a doctor involved who will give you a second opinion).

Good luck, on all the things confronting you right now. We are behind ya!

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[QUOTE=MsTCB;49706]Thanks for all the wonderful replies. Re: What is my Doc's rationale. Every time I have asked for meds (which has been often), he has told me things like: "If you get rid of your belly fat, then you will not have Diabetes. [Pointing to my stomach] "This is where Diabetes lives."
"I believe you can lose the weight and if I give you medications, then I am sending you the opposite message." "The meds will only make you gain even more weight and keep you Diabetic." "The meds also will just speed up the burning out of your Pancreas which will lead to being on Insulin which will make you gain even more weight."
These are just a few of his comments to me.

So, I usually leave his office feeling like a complete failure despite my relentless efforts to lose weight.


.....That;s interesting MsTCB. I asked myself that question too --- why not give meds? Infact, when I was diagnosed as high as 30 and in the high 20s with ketoacidosis, I was immediately given meds and encouraged by the pharmacist. I had weight gain for a progressive number of years, thirst and frequent voiding edema, and Montezuma's revenge. It was all attributed to a drug I take, and also, to my weight gain. The surprising thing that happened was that when I was medically treated for diabetes II which had to be done, all those symptoms disappeared and I started losing weight. Perhaps it was a problem of optimism by well-meaning doctors, but a more frequent diabetes test may have changed their mind, in my case.

Good luck with an endocrinologist or diabetic specialist. Frankly, I think the obesity thing might be a chicken and egg problem in diabetics.

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"Frankly, I think the obesity thing might be a chicken and egg problem in diabetics."

Irene I think so too, and so does Blood Sugar 101.

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"Frankly, I think the obesity thing might be a chicken and egg problem in diabetics."

Irene I think so too, and so does Blood Sugar 101.
My own medical history corroborates this. Menopause, obesity and symptoms I now know are diabetes-related all occurred at the same time.

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