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Old 06-25-2015, 21:22   #11
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Don't patronize me, either. You are a study of ONE, and how well you maintain LCHF has to be called into question also. As Mark says, normal blood sugars do not cause progression. We have normal blood sugars.

You apparently, have not maintained normal levels throughout the last 14 years. I have seen the recipes on your blog, and they are nowhere near low-carb. Not when they use bread stuffing, rolled oats, applesauce, etc. You may be swapping sugar out for artificial sweeteners, and you may even be using alternative flours for wheat flour, but your diabetes is progressing because you continue to eat high-carb foods like challah. And you can take that to the bank.

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Ah, Shanny, Shanny. Look at your diagnosis date. Look at my diagnosis date. See the difference? I too kept my diabetes under tight control using Metformin and diet, and for about 13 years. You can say that LCHF will keep your diabetes from progressing, but you have no evidence that it does, while I myself am evidence that it does NOT. Find me a LCHF advocate who has been on Metformin only for substantially longer than me, like several more years, before you declare that LCHF stops the progression.



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No, Shanny, your blood sugars are not "Normal." Show me an A1C of 5, and I will call your blood sugars normal, but yours is 6.7, higher than mine has ever been except the last year.

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Try mine - and it's been consistent since the beginning of 2011 as you can see by clicking John.in.France Blood Sugar Tracking and Monitoring Charts

I agree with the view that normal blood glucose depends on avoiding the thing that causes it to rise - Carbohydrate. I do not think your link to a flawed copy of a sample of eleven individuals whose diet was mis-described in the article does your argument any favours. As a previous poster said, the sample size is laughable and as another said the test regime was doubtful in the extreme.

I'll see you in twenty years - and I will be able to see.

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Check the date on that. It was during a rough patch I had after my dad died. My present levels are normal.




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You can stall, but not stop, the progression.
Diabetes is inevitably a progressive disease, if mismanaged.

Oh, and n=11 is not science.
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Diabetes is inevitably a progressive disease. LCHF can slow the progression, but it is not going to stop it, or it would be a cure, not a treatment. I have been diabetic for over twice as long as you have, Shanny. Two and a half times as long, in fact. Nine years longer, and for all but the first few months of those nine years I controlled my diabetes by cutting carbs. I was perfectly stable for years and years, until suddenly I wasn't. Eventually you, too, will get a 30 plus point spike in blood sugar from scrambled eggs with 4 carbs of mushrooms and 5 carbs of bell pepper. when that time comes you are free to remove vegetables from your diet. I choose to retain vegetables.

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Diabetes is inevitably a progressive disease. LCHF can slow the progression, but it is not going to stop it, or it would be a cure, not a treatment. I have been diabetic for over twice as long as you have, Shanny. Two and a half times as long, in fact. Nine years longer, and for all but the first few months of those nine years I controlled my diabetes by cutting carbs. I was perfectly stable for years and years, until suddenly I wasn't. Eventually you, too, will get a 30 plus point spike in blood sugar from scrambled eggs with 4 carbs of mushrooms and 5 carbs of bell pepper. when that time comes you are free to remove vegetables from your diet. I choose to retain vegetables.
You took no diabetes medications whatsoever, during those nine years?

Define "four carbs" ...... are you saying four grams of carbohydrate?

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Diet only for the first two years, diet plus Metformin for the next 13 years. 9 years longer than Shanny, not 9 years total. 15 years total.

And yes, I mean 4 grams of carbs of mushrooms, 5 grams of carbs of bell pepper.

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Diet only for the first two years, diet plus Metformin for the next 13 years. 9 years longer than Shanny, not 9 years total. 15 years total.

And yes, I mean 4 grams of carbs of mushrooms, 5 grams of carbs of bell pepper.
Roughly 100 gm. mushrooms, roughly 120 gm bell pepper, and an unspecified number of eggs ..... yes?

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Roughly 100 gm. mushrooms, roughly 120 gm bell pepper, and an unspecified number of eggs ..... yes?
No. Roughly 60 grams of canned mushrooms, using the carb info on the label for half of the 113 grams total, and 1/4 of a yellow bell pepper, which should be not quite 3 grams of carbs but I added 2 grams in my counting because I cooked it and could find no number for sauteed bell pepper, be it green, yellow, or red. 1 extra-large egg, so 2 grams of carbs there at the most. 11 grams total in the entire meal, counting things on the high side.

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