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Old 03-25-2016, 06:56   #1
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Hello dear people. My doctor advised me to use insuline, but he said that I absolutely cannot use other medicines unless they have been discussed with him. This includes in particular the-counter medicines such as aspirin and drugs for appetite control, asthma, colds, coughs, hay fever or sinusitis. There are also alot of side-effects comming with insulin for people with diabetes.

Side effects of insulin include:
convulsions (fits)
unconsciousness (long-term) fainting
low blood sugar (mild)
also anxious feeling
behavior comparable to being drunk
blurred vision
cold sweats
confusion
cool / pale skin
difficulty concentrating
drowsiness
excessive hunger
fast heartbeat
palpitations
headache
nausea
nervousness
nightmares
restless sleep
tremors
slurred speech
unusual tiredness or weakness
weight gain
depressive skin at the injection site
swollen face, fingers, feet or ankles

This makes me wonder if the medication is safe. Does anybody has experience with the medication? Did you notice any side-effects? And do you have any tips on usage or any tops?

Thank you very much in advance.

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First, insulin is safe but it must be used correctly. Many of the side effects you list come under the umbrella of low blood sugar. If one uses too much insulin for the amount of carbs consumed, or tries to cover a lot of carbs with insulin, then lows can and do result. I've used insulin for only a short time, but have not come close to having a low. I am, however, very conservative, eat very few carbs, and test frequently.

An excellent source to learn about good diabetes control using insulin is Dr. Bernstein's book which can be read mostly online: Read Online - Diabetes Solution - Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars. Official Web Site

You can learn about why it's important to limit carbs with insulin in this section of his book: The Laws of Small Numbers - Diabetes Solution - Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution. A Complete Guide to Achieving Normal Blood Sugars. Official Web Site - and it might go a long way in answering your question if insulin is safe, and how to ensure that it is.

In my view, and that of many many others, insulin is far safer than any of the oral medications for T2 diabetes (excepting metformin).

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Moon is correct. I have been on insulin since Jan 2004 and use both bolus and basal insulin. I use syringes and vial and not pens. I have had lows (hypoglycemia), but I can at least still count them on two hands. Only one was serious and my wife found me lying on the foot of the bed where I had collapsed and tested my blood glucose and immediately had me take some sugar cubes which I could let melt in my mouth. Half an hour later I was back above 70 mg/dl and went back to sleep. When I finally woke up and tested, I was only at 76 mg/dl.

I personally don't get too excited until I get below 55 mg/dl, which does not happen that often. Because my pancreas can still produce insulin and the other hormone that stops insulin production, most of the time I have no problems. Using LCHF with less than 40 grams of carbs, my insulin amount is not that large and therefore less likely to cause a low.

If you are afraid of the list you laid out, then insulin may not be for you. However, insulin is safer than all oral medications, except metformin. I am duplicating what Moon stated, but I feel very strongly about this.

Research is proving that starting on insulin at diagnosis will give your pancreas time to recover and after a few months, insulin may not be needed. Yet the ADA, AACE, and most doctors in the United States insist on oral medications only and often shame people to stay on oral medications by threatening to put them on insulin. This causes people to feel that they have failed and very resistant to insulin.

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Insulin is used to lower BG.
As with most drugs to lower BG If you use too much your BG will go too low. All of the side effects listed are from BG going to low, not from the insulin
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depressive skin at the injection site
swollen face, fingers, feet or ankles)

and those side effects are from what the insulin is mixed with. Very few people get those side effects but switching to a different insulin (novolog to apedra) will not get rid of the side effects.

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Is insulin expensive, though?

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Is insulin expensive, though?
Not all insulin is costly. Walmart sells the brand I use called Novolin R and Novolin N, each vial costing $24.95, lasting 42 days by keeping them cool and to top it off... you need no prescription, its an over the counter drug! Why I don't know! I would suggest taking it with the supervision of a doctor even so!

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I wonder how much prescription insulin costs though :O

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You could ask a pharmacist about that.

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You could ask a pharmacist about that.
I'm almost scared to :O

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I wonder how much prescription insulin costs though :O
As VeeJay suggested, a pharmacist could tell you.

There are too many variables for us to give a meaningful answer: is there insurance? Which insulin is on the plan's formulary? Different pharmacies charge differently (I'd check with several, including Costco if there's one nearby.) If no insurance one might get a manufacturer's coupon.

You could look online at GoodRx for the best price. Example: Lantus Solostar pens (pack of 5) would cost just under $400 without insurance.

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