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Old 03-03-2017, 16:46   #71
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Berberine......sorry. I haven't tried metformin yet but if I get backed up with berberine I'll probably have to. I can no longer get my fasting down below 95 with just lchf. I can keep my pp after meals below 125. I keep my glucose levels tight ....usually between 100-125.

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Interesting about the lemon juice. Is it only lemons or would other fruit work? Fresh lemons are hard to come by, but I always have the plastic lemon shaped squeeze bottle on hand. @moon was making cucumber water a few months ago and it sounded delicious too...
Try 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar in glass of water before bed should help with DP

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This is really interesting. I may try the lemons. My family Dr will be taking my 1st FBS since I was told I had high blood sugar on my last 6 month visit. It was 119. He just told me to "cut down"....but, it scared me, since 120 was the number he showed me that was diabetic. So, I found this forum, read the How to Lower Your Blood Sugar (and related articles under the Blood Sugar 101), and went all the way, getting a meter, counting carbs, etc. I've been really good, keeping my carbs at 30-50 daily. I'm WAY underweight now with all this, too since I don't cook, AND (finally to the point) my FBS is STILL high in the mornings, with this morning's being 115, after a good day of eating, totalling 41 carbs....... So, when I go to him next month, and my FBS is still high, he won't believe I've been eating well...... He won't understand this at all.
Sholleman, looking back on a couple of your threads, I think you really need to be evaluated for LADA. It's really hard for someone who is normal weight and not living off of 12 pops a day to get diabetes below 60. Since you have another immuno-suppresive disorder, that actually increases the likelihood, I think. I say this because you say you are now underweight and continued weight loss could give you more problems. So, do a little research in that area - Family practice docs know zip about LADA so going to an endo might be your first step in either confirming or eliminating that as a possibility. You've been doing such a great job, yet your morning BG doesn't really change, which is why I suspect this may be the case.

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Thanks, I'll check into it!

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I found this article interesting but it is almost 4 years old.

I would love to find a followup on it...

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The Danish researchers then created three subgroups based on the patients’ blood sugar levels in the first two of the tests mentioned above.
  1. The first group has high blood sugar after fasting and after taking a glucose load and makes up around 25 percent of patients.
  2. The second group has high blood sugar after fasting, but not after taking a glucose load and accounts for around 20 percent of patients.
  3. The third group has high blood sugar after taking a glucose load, but not after fasting. This group is by far the largest, representing about 55 percent.
Slim and healthy people also get type 2 diabetes

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Sholleman, looking back on a couple of your threads, I think you really need to be evaluated for LADA. It's really hard for someone who is normal weight and not living off of 12 pops a day to get diabetes below 60. Since you have another immuno-suppresive disorder, that actually increases the likelihood, I think. I say this because you say you are now underweight and continued weight loss could give you more problems. So, do a little research in that area - Family practice docs know zip about LADA so going to an endo might be your first step in either confirming or eliminating that as a possibility. You've been doing such a great job, yet your morning BG doesn't really change, which is why I suspect this may be the case.
I do have a question:

What do you mean by "12 pops"?

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Bunjee, sorry...it won't let me edit a 2nd time..
You also mentioned "below 60"....I'm 63......are you referring to having/or getting LADA below the age of 60? I was reading, and it only mentioned above 30 (or, they originally thought it was BELOW age 30, calling it juvenile diabetes...).

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Sholleman, it's ok, that's what we are here for...answering questions. Yes, I meant below age 60, but obviously, at age 60, you are older, but you still COULD have LADA. I was diagnosed with LADA only last year and I'm 57. I was diagnosed with diabetes 6 years ago. Had I been tested for LADA then, I might still have more pancreas function. MANY folks are never diagnosed with it, but you really can have its effects at any age. Oh, and 12 pops - I mean like 12 cans of soda. When I go for the annual diabetes seminar, there are are least 2 thin folks there who became diabetic and it appears the only thing they did differently was drink a LOT of sugared soda. These folks were otherwise slim and healthy (and no LADA), but simply overwhelmed their systems on a daily basis for years. I think there are a lot of other folks in this situation, but because they aren't overweight, docs don't test their blood sugar until they have 'symptoms' of diabetes.

Sorry...my answer sounds a bit random... chronic interruptions here today.

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Sholleman, it's ok, that's what we are here for...answering questions. Yes, I meant below age 60, but obviously, at age 60, you are older, but you still COULD have LADA. I was diagnosed with LADA only last year and I'm 57. I was diagnosed with diabetes 6 years ago. Had I been tested for LADA then, I might still have more pancreas function. MANY folks are never diagnosed with it, but you really can have its effects at any age. Oh, and 12 pops - I mean like 12 cans of soda. When I go for the annual diabetes seminar, there are are least 2 thin folks there who became diabetic and it appears the only thing they did differently was drink a LOT of sugared soda. These folks were otherwise slim and healthy (and no LADA), but simply overwhelmed their systems on a daily basis for years. I think there are a lot of other folks in this situation, but because they aren't overweight, docs don't test their blood sugar until they have 'symptoms' of diabetes.

Sorry...my answer sounds a bit random... chronic interruptions here today.
That's okay, you answered my questions . No, I didn't drink ANY sodas/pops. I've just drank water the last 6+years, after finding out I was dehydrating myself with sparkling water (no sugar) and, in the evening I had lime and diet tonic at night. So, I just quit both carbonated drinks and went to total water, except my coffee, which had 3 heaping tspns of sugar (1 cup in the morning, and one in the evening). I guess I didn't need to put all that in there , but I'm wordy. thanks for the answers!

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