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Old 12-08-2016, 21:14   #1
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My bs was 146 at 10:45pm. I woke at 6 and it was 180. It usually is near the same at noon. I took a snack at 9am of 2 pieces of cheese. It was 176. I take 1000 metformin and 6 mg of glymepride (sp) with my breakfast which is eggbeater with flax, 1/2 avocado, 1/2 piece of turkey bacon, 1tbs of blue berries. Instead of the cheese would I be better off to have eaten carbs at 9am instead of the cheese? Thank you for any help. If not should I have eaten more cheese.

When I exercise in the morning my bs goes up. In the late afternoon exercising (3pm) brings it down. Very difficult for me to understand. Sam

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From the information you've given here...I'd say there's a good chance you have diabetes.

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From the information you've given here...I'd say there's a good chance you have diabetes.
Bounty, I don't think you read my the entire paragraph. I have had it for over twenty years. Sam

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Bounty, I don't think you read my the entire paragraph. I have had it for over twenty years. Sam
That was humor, dude.

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Sam, I don't have any advice beyond continuing to test varying strategies. I've been blessed not to have Dawn Phenomenon so haven't had to wrestle with it.

When you say your bg rises with morning exercise - have you tested to see how long it takes to come back down? Mine used to go up as well but then it would drop a couple hours later. Maybe don't exercise as vigorously in the AM and just take a walk instead?

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Sam, I don't have any advice beyond continuing to test varying strategies. I've been blessed not to have Dawn Phenomenon so haven't had to wrestle with it.

When you say your bg rises with morning exercise - have you tested to see how long it takes to come back down? Mine used to go up as well but then it would drop a couple hours later. Maybe don't exercise as vigorously in the AM and just take a walk instead?
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I was looking at this question and don't remember receiving your question. Someone told me to eat a piece of cheese around 9am since I take my slim breakfast at 6am. I did this and it came down a little bit, but not more than ten points. I didn't see your suggestion about walking maybe at a slower pace in the morning. I will try this. I have a doctors appt. on the 22nd with the doctor and not the PA. My blood sugar can be 200 at noon and if I do my speed walking on the treadmill, rest, then my weights, my blood sugar will be around 100 or below at 6pm. Thanks again for responding. The other fellow seemed to be making fun of my question so I decided to stop asking them. That is why I have not been getting on lately. Because I have atherosclerosis I don't want to eat a lot of saturated fat. My dad died in front of me when I was 19. His heart attack was caused by atherosclerosis. We grew up on liver, whole milk, and fatty
meat. That is just the way it was when I was young. Thanks again Sam (if I replied to this before please accept it as age,)

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First, let me say, I didn't see Bounty making fun of your question at all. I read it as a light-hearted agreement that you have diabetes.

As for your morning bg issue, I'd experiment with different breakfasts. Adding cheese (fat) was a good idea - one of my experiments would be to add a bit more. Another would be to eat only cheese as snack and forgo breakfast - a morning fast if you will. This is only for information-gathering, not suggesting to live without breakfast.

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First, let me say, I didn't see Bounty making fun of your question at all. I read it as a light-hearted agreement that you have diabetes.

As for your morning bg issue, I'd experiment with different breakfasts. Adding cheese (fat) was a good idea - one of my experiments would be to add a bit more. Another would be to eat only cheese as snack and forgo breakfast - a morning fast if you will. This is only for information-gathering, not suggesting to live without breakfast.
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that is a great idea! But would you make it low or no carb. Maybe just more like cheese when I eat at six added with what I do eat. I would love to have some cereal, but I suppose that would be a no no? I miss cereal so much. Even cheereos. ha! Sorry about My suggestion with Bounty. I don't know him very well and just thought I was asking to many questions. Thanks again. Sam

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Experiments are just that. I'd try no carb (cheese only), very low carb, and keep records of before, 1 hr after, 2 hrs after, etc and see if I could pinpoint something that would help. We're all different, so your results will be unique to you.

NO CEREAL!

But! Check out this alternative, if you like warm cereal (oatmeal): http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...ml#post1138146

Bless @Daytona because I now eat this a couple times/week with a handful of berries mixed in, and it's a wonderful, quick, filling breakfast.

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Experiments are just that. I'd try no carb (cheese only), very low carb, and keep records of before, 1 hr after, 2 hrs after, etc and see if I could pinpoint something that would help. We're all different, so your results will be unique to you.

NO CEREAL!

But! Check out this alternative, if you like warm cereal (oatmeal): http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...ml#post1138146

Bless @Daytona because I now eat this a couple times/week with a handful of berries mixed in, and it's a wonderful, quick, filling breakfast.
Moon, with the oatmeal, is that all you eat for breakfast on those days. I ate the extra cheese this morning, but did not take my blood sugar readings 1-2 hours after. I will be checking in 45 minutes before lunch. I have another question to ask. I keep reading your "health team". What do they mean by team. I only have my doctor and I do see a podiatrist. I have a doctors appt. on the 22nd so I will find out my A1C. I am not expecting good results. I was on Januvia for three months and it gave me neuropathy at night. It was really painful. I got about three night of a full sleep out of those three months. I finally quit. My doctors PA said I had to be allergic to it. I had non in the daytime, only at night. I don't know how people live with it. Have a good day. Have a good day. Sam

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