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Old 06-28-2017, 23:39   #11
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As much as I love you bunjee I can't agree with you on this one. Atkins is looked at as a gimmick these days since the company is not in his hands anymore. The Atkins bars and other things they are bringing out in his name are not healthy in any way.
Well, hopefully doctors will look beyond that. Most don't want their patients to have amputations or die early. Those foods have nothing to do with the diet plan. Weight Watchers meals are very unhealthy and ridiculously expensive as well. I suppose that they bash them too now too although admittingly, I haven't looked at their diet plan for more than a decade.

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I agree weight watchers is not good. I get what your saying about Atkins. If only they didn't promote all the gimmicky stuff.

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Real people, that can prove the LCHF way of eating by there blood test results to their own doctors..surely that in its own can speak for itself.

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Real people, that can prove the LCHF way of eating by there blood test results to their own doctors..surely that in its own can speak for itself.
Yes, but if you are just starting, where is your proof? The doc first sees your cholesterol and triglycerides going up. Your liver numbers go up because of fatty liver. That isn't going to sell your doc. There is no doubt that lower carbs are going to result in better blood sugar, but you have to have a doc who is willing to give it a tryout that you aren't wrecking the rest of your body mechanisms.

You certainly can just be the 'average patient' and get the cholesterol thing done once a year and right afterwards, do your LCHF thing. Just don't bring it up. You don't need to justify your lifestyle. Just do what you want and in a year, they will test your cholesterol again and the numbers are either better, worse or the same.

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Real people, that can prove the LCHF way of eating by there blood test results to their own doctors..surely that in its own can speak for itself.
I was able to prove to my endo but only because I got lucky. when I was diagnosed by my doctor he gave me the endo's information and the endo was booked for the next 5 weeks.

it gave me a change to show her that I can do this through diet and exercise and I did do it. she still put me through my paces asking me to chart out each day my numbers taking random samples before and after meals. Once she saw those results 2 months later... she was a believer .

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Blood Sugar 101 - VERY informative and accurate
http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...ng-method.html a tried and true testing method
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb lists foods for LCHF

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Doctors are in the business of healing people. It amazes me they can be so one eyed. If they bothered to look outside of the box..well..wouldn't that be just great!

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Please note..I'm not down on doctors. They do good work. I just wished they would listen to their patients more and broaden their horizons to what they have been taught in medical school.

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I read a post here from some guy that was rightly removed from admin. He suggested a doctor in some part of the world that could "cure" diabeties. My first instinct was WHAAAAAT! Someone can cure diabeties?? I'm thinking of all the bread and pasta I can have back in my life and ohhh crousants..is that how u spell it? I dunno..I just loved eating them...Even thou deep down I know..there is no cure. I've done enough research to believe this to be true...but hey..one can't stop dreaming! Before the post was removed, and again, rightly so, I couldn't help myself to get enough info even thou he couldn't post the URL being a new member, to find the place he was talking about. Well I found it after a little while..I'm like...could this be true!!! Well it isn't true. After a little while..didn't take much, I realised this ain't no miracle cure. This guy talks of 3 weeks in a "miracle" clinic and his problems are so solved he's going to send his sister there...ok I'm a sucker for a good story. So they have changed his diet and done some not so pleasant procedures..his words not mine, and now he's let loose diabeties free..however the doctor warns that if you go back to the lifestyle you had before...well...game over. So in my mind this guy has spent so much money for accomodation to a foreign country and all other expenses, just to be told what we know? Thinking of starting a clinic guys...in a month I'll cure you of Diabeties!! I'll put you on a LCHF diet..and maybe some unpleasant bottom cleaning procedures...BUT, when you leave you have to keep eating LCHF. Hey..no refunds if you fail..that's not my problem! They talked of stem cell blah blah blah. Why would we need major manipulation to our system which is our own body when we can just easily no problem eat to our meter, LCHF way of eating.
Point is, yeah I was receptive to a miracle cure for sure! Even given how far I've come myself to combat DB2 with great success! Just be careful of miracle cures..if it's too good too be true..then it probably isn't. Doesn't hurt to take a look, but keep your wits about you at the same time. luv to all x

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Real people, that can prove the LCHF way of eating by there blood test results to their own doctors..surely that in its own can speak for itself.
After starting a LCHF diet some weeks ago I am seeing some good results, actually, numbers I haven't seen since I was diagnosed. I believe if I keep this up I may see drug free (2000 Metformin) days. I am so relieved because I was stressing bad over the next drug the dr would want to put me on, now I believe one day I could be drug free.

One thing is true, carbs will make you want carbs. I cut out sugars and starches and limit other carbs but I still allow myself two slices of whole wheat bread a day. This diet isn't real hard but I sometimes find myself missing some munchies. I also don't like feeling controlled and restricted, I think that's the worse, but my new numbers help a lot.
I hope this will keep me from being so dependent on the doctors.
I can't wait to see my my next blood tests.
I still worry about the fat in my diet but the out of control diabetes was more of a threat to my health.

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After starting a LCHF diet weeks ago I am seeing some good results, actually, numbers I haven't seen since I was diagnosed. I believe if I keep this up I may see drug free (2000 Metformin) days. I am so relieved because I was stressing bad over the next drug the dr would want to put me on, now I believe one day I could be drug free.
One thing is true, carbs will make you want carbs. I cut out sugars and starches and limit other carbs but I still allow myself two slices of whole wheat bread a day.
I hope this will keep me from being dependent on the doctors so much.
I can't wait to see my my next blood tests.
I still worry about the fat in my diet but the out of control diabetes was more of a threat to my health.
Please don't worry,that just puts more pressure on you. your blood tests will never be not true, I have to say the 2 slices of bread... look for yourself the carb content.

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