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Old 10-07-2017, 00:12   #1
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Hello everyone I have bee taking Glyburide/Met 5/500 2 in the am and 2 in the pm. I have lost 10lbs over the last 5 weeks low carb diet. I have been seeing my numbers drop down to as low as 46 thinking it was the weight loss that was causing lows. I called the doctor and he said to take 2 in the am and now 1 in the pm and see him next week.
I realized today that it seems to be when I eat a pickles with lunch my numbers drop. Today it dropped to 56 before dinner. Is there anyone else out there experiencing the same low reading after eating a pickle?

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I have had similar experience. But I haven't seen it often enough to consider it as more than just coincidence.

I'd like to be able to eliminate enough other variables (food, time I'm eating, that day's exercise level, meter error, etc.) to test the effects of fermented food. Someday. Maybe.

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I am going to see what happens in am. If my reading is high before breakfast say 140 or so I will have a pickle with my low carb steak and eggs and compare it to other days reading eating the same food. Thanks !!

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the true way to test this is to take a reading before you eat it (and it would be best if you do it first thing in the morning

take a reading
eat a pickle or 2
take a reading 30 minutes after
take a reading 60 minutes after
take a reading 120 minutes after

come back with these numbers. it will help justify your theory.

your numbers are concerning be that they are so low. Anything under 60 needs to be reviewed.

if you are going LCHF or even just low carb, you might have to reduce your medication to balance your diet

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Thanks I will do what you suggested tomorrow. Do you suggest I eat or just
take a reading
eat a pickle or 2
take a reading 30 minutes after
take a reading 60 minutes after
take a reading 120 minutes after
If it does got below70 I have glucose tablets to take.
Thanks

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Thanks I will do what you suggested tomorrow. Do you suggest I eat or just
take a reading
eat a pickle or 2
take a reading 30 minutes after
take a reading 60 minutes after
take a reading 120 minutes after
If it does got below70 I have glucose tablets to take.
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I would say to do it first thing before you eat anything else.

Also - if this somehow lowers your BG, I would definitely consider lowering your medication (with doctor approval) and eat more pickles. The goal is to try not to be on medication or to have to eat carbs in order for you not to go too low. the goal is to eat food that will keep you in the healthy range with as little medication as possible. If pickles helps you obtain that... then I would eat 1 or 2 before each meal

just my thoughts.

also - if this actually works, I would do the same test with cucumbers to determine if its the vegetable or the brine

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1 Pickle didn't seem to do anything. Will try tomorrow in the am with 2.
137 first am reading the every 30 min

137/129/134/120

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1 Pickle didn't seem to do anything. Will try tomorrow in the am with 2.
ljarsa1, a couple of thoughts:

- For me, typically my highest BG reading of the day is my morning (fasting) reading. What I've learned is that eating anything that is very low in carbs will leave me with lower BG afterward. So if I ate pickles before breakfast, I could have a very hard time determining if the pickles had an effect greater than whatever other food I ate. This may not be the case so much if you always eat the same thing for breakfast (and maintain the same level of exercise, etc.).

- hftmrock makes a great point in testing the vegetable raw as well as in pickled form. Maybe pickled cucumbers don't reliably lower your BG. But pickled cabbage (sauerkraut, kimchi, etc.) might.

Or it might also be that vinegar-pickled vegetables (shelf-stable jarred pickles, etc.) might not reduce your BG as much as lacto-fermented ("sour") pickles, sauerkraut, or other vegetables. Lacto-fermentation is pickling, but it is very different from just immersing a vegetable in a vinegary brine.

Variables like these are one reason why my investigation into the effect of pickled foods hasn't yet happened.

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Lots of good information and comments above....

I only want to jump in a stress something already said, but I will say it differently. You are experiencing lows that "can be dangerous"! You probably know that sometimes diabetics have a low sugar and they can pass out...and that alone is dangerous. But it can get even worse....as I am sure you know!

Usually, to go that low, you have to be taking a drug, usually fast acting insulin, which you are taking. Funny thing about food, you can eat carbs and shoot your blood sugar right up through the roof, but you cannot eat food that will blow you blood sugar very low. So I speculate that the insulin is taking your blood sugar down, as it is supposed to do (I am not a doctor, so get you doctor involved). Working with your doctor to find the safe dosage is VERY IMPORTANT!

Testing foods and using foods to help balance your blood sugars is something we all do to control our balance, but do not forget that the typical blood sugar meter and tabs are only accurate +- 20%! I know some foods can help lower blood sugars, but not as low as your are experiencing. So always keep that in mind!

From what you have already shared with us, you are in dangerous territory with your low sugars.....you should make sure your doctor is fully aware of what you are seeing, as far as exactly how low and how often, and he/she should be giving you specific direction on what to do and what not to do....if it were me I would have someone take me to my doctors office and I would set until he saw me....of course that is just me!

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Lots of good information and comments above....

I only want to jump in a stress something already said, but I will say it differently. You are experiencing lows that "can be dangerous"! You probably know that sometimes diabetics have a low sugar and they can pass out...and that alone is dangerous. But it can get even worse....as I am sure you know!

Usually, to go that low, you have to be taking a drug, usually fast acting insulin, which you are taking. Funny thing about food, you can eat carbs and shoot your blood sugar right up through the roof, but you cannot eat food that will blow you blood sugar very low. So I speculate that the insulin is taking your blood sugar down, as it is supposed to do (I am not a doctor, so get you doctor involved). Working with your doctor to find the safe dosage is VERY IMPORTANT!

Testing foods and using foods to help balance your blood sugars is something we all do to control our balance, but do not forget that the typical blood sugar meter and tabs are only accurate +- 20%! I know some foods can help lower blood sugars, but not as low as your are experiencing. So always keep that in mind!

From what you have already shared with us, you are in dangerous territory with your low sugars.....you should make sure your doctor is fully aware of what you are seeing, as far as exactly how low and how often, and he/she should be giving you specific direction on what to do and what not to do....if it were me I would have someone take me to my doctors office and I would set until he saw me....of course that is just me!

Good Luck

this is great advice and I would like to add one more thing that is MY OPINION ALONE and what I would do BUT I AM NOT A DOCTOR

if you are getting these low numbers and you CANT get to a doctor for some reason VERY quickly, I would reduce the amount of medication I am taking or even stop taking it for a small time. THIS IS MY OPINION

the drugs are what is bringing your numbers too low. It can be a combination of eating the right foods low in carbs and taking the same dosage as if you were eating high carbs or that your body is doing slightly better on its own and the medication is driving your blood sugar too low.

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION AND WHAT I WOULD DO UNTIL I SEE A DOCTOR.

being too low is very dangerous. the medication is definitely playing a part in this.

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