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Old 01-04-2018, 17:28   #1
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I am a 60 year old male. I was diagnosed in 2012 with Type 2 Diabetes. After going through the nutrition training courses and getting Metformin, I set off on my journey with Diabetes. Short version of the story is: My doctors kept wanting me to increase dosage and told me that I could not overcome the disease and would always be reliant on meds. Due to that teaching, I quite frankly lost interest in trying, and accepted increased dosages of Metformin over the years. (I currently take 1000mg twice daily.) My blood glucose numbers had been hovering as high as 320.

After a lot of reading and studying on effects of diet and nutrition, fasting, and exercise, I have come up with my own plan of attack that I started a week ago.
Breakfast consists of 1/2 cup of oatmeal with 2 ounces of raisins, 1 banana, decaf coffee.
Lunch consists of either a small portion of lean meat, steamed veggies and water or salad and water.
I fast from lunch to the next breakfast (18 hours).
I have started an exercising routine of weights and sit-ups in the morning and riding 4 miles on an exercise bike in the evening.

In a week's time, my waking blood glucose readings are 154. (Dropping 25-30 points daily)

Since keeping this routine up is no problem, and I refuse to accept the fact that I am shackled to increasing dosages of medications for the rest of my life, I am trying to reverse the effects on my own.

Since my doctor is not of the same "mindset" as I am, I am seeking advice as to when I should reduce my dosage of Metformin.

Any advise?

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Welcome to the place where you will find out you are right and there is a way to reverse diabetes through nutrition.

Before you can think about reducing your medication I recommend you eat to your meter. take a reading. eat a meal. take a reading 1 hour after and 2 hours after.

you will find what foods raise your BG and what doesnt. Your breakfast is not a good LCHF (Low Carb/High Fat)meal.

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Next I recommend you find a doctor that also agrees with your thoughts on how to try to reverse it. You need to try to be on the same page as your doctor.

I dont think you are eating enough calories to sustain a healthy lifestyle and that will hurt you in the long run. I eat when I want and I dont what I am not hungry. Your diet might not have enough calories to sustain good health

Just to show you... almost 2 years ago I was diagnose with diabetes with a BG of 396. In 5 weeks I lowered my BG to under 90 and since then I have been between 75 and 90 without any medication so it CAN BE DONE.

I live a ketogenic lifestyle which means I do not eat much carbs (like 20 - 30g per day)

Ask as many questions as you want.. we are here to help! We want to help and you ABSOLUTELY can reduce your BG to potentially reduce your medication. It all depends on how much damage has already happened to know how much it can be reduced.

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Blood Sugar 101 - VERY informative and accurate
http://www.diabetesforum.com/diabete...ng-method.html a tried and true testing method
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb lists foods for LCHF

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Breakfast consists of 1/2 cup of oatmeal with 2 ounces of raisins, 1 banana, decaf coffee.
Just to give you an example of the meals you mentioned.

the meal above is about 100g of carbs. Carbs is the source of the problem. 100g is what I eat in about 5 days in total. you had it in one meal. Read the links and the video and you will start to figure this out. This site helped me tremendously.

Education purposes (try not to fall asleep)(Type 2 only)

When you eat carbohydrates, your pancreas produces insulin. In a normal person, the insulin acts as a key to your cells to open them up and allow the BG to go into the cells so that you will not get damaged. This is the normal flow.

when you eat too much carbohydrates over a period of time (usually years), your body starts having a problem keeping up with the insulin production. Either your body stops producing enough insulin to keep up with the amount of BG in your body or the insulin doesnt work as a key anymore in the cells and the cells stop opening up for the BG to go into. In either case, this causes the glucose to stay in your blood and can be very damaging.

the solution????

Stop eating carbohydrates. You have to find the amount of carbohydrates to match what your body is able to handle. We do this by eating to your meter. Take a reading. eat a meal. take a reading 1 hour after and 2 hours after. You will now know what foods cause the BG to stay high.

Once you know this information, you can figure out how to fix your body to potentially lower or even remove your medication. It depends on how much you lower your carbs and how much damage has already occurred.

Take it once step at a time. Read all the information and watch the video. Start tracking your BG readings before and after meals. remove foods that raise your BG too much.

ask questions here as many as you want.

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Welcome, BismarckDon!

Many of us who are pursuing a low-carb/high-fat way of eating have had to persuade skeptical medical practitioners. Providing a string of results does the job for many of them. But there are some minds which are not open to new information, and the best way through that mountain is around it, especially when that person is writing your Rxs.

Very few of us on the board are doctors so while we may have a great understanding of how our bodies use carbohydrates, we're not dosaging experts or able to directly address other medical needs.

I echo hftmrock's recommendation that you try to find a doctor who, if (s)he does not explicitly endorse LCHF, is at least open and friendly to the idea that Type 2 diabetics do not have to "carb up and shoot up". You will find yourself working closely with this practitioner to coordinate not only your metformin dosage but periodic tests for the other risks of diabetes. It pays to have that person on your side.

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Thank you for the replies! I am going to check out the links and information.

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there are essential amino acids (protien) and essential fatty acids, but there is no such thing as essential carbs.

I think your breakfast would be much healthier if the oatmeal was replaced with an egg dish that has tolerable amounts of spinach, onion, bell pepper.....topped with non insulin spiking cheddar cheese. If you are avoiding cheese, the mix could scrambled with virgin olive oil or just ad some wedges of avocado.

Your blood glucose readings will love you, and the greens will ad about 5 times more potassium to your diet than the banana.

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hmm...I think I might have describe a quiche dish without the crust. My wife has a silicon muffin plate. Thank you for inspiring me to think of this.

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If you are avoiding cheese, the mix could scrambled with virgin olive oil or just ad some wedges of avocado.
There also are non-dairy (vegan) cheeses which might fill the bill here.

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