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Old 01-24-2018, 10:17   #1
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so here's a few bits of the puzzle that I've been putting togetherr.

1)In 2009, I was prescribed a meal replaced diet 6 weeks prior to surgery with the intention to shrink my liver for the day of the surgery.

2) something like 85% of bariatric patients with type 2 diabetes are completely off their meds in the first few weeks after surgery, long before massive amounts of weightloss

3) liposuction of fat under the skin does not influence insulin resistance.

4) liposuction of fat close to your liver and other organs does not reduce insulin resistance

5) Non alcoholic fatty liver appearantly can be healed through a careful diet that gives it time to heal itself

6) extended periods of intermittent fasting can improve your LDL and HDL levels. Appearantly much better than dietary restriction of cholesterol

7) fatty liver is quite common in pre-diabetes

Ok, I look at all this, and Im intrigued with the possibility of making my internal organs less fatty long before I lose my belly fat. It looks like I could dramatically improve my health markers before taking the weight off. And, most likely significantly improve my long term chances of losing the weight and keeping the weight off.

I think LCHF and intermittant fast is the key.

The LCHF gets the liver breaking down fats, this is likely how my liver was shrunk in 2009.

And, intermittent fasting is reported to give your body time to heal in ways that are possiblely not available when it is busy breaking down food.

Anyway, I know I probably set this thread up for some major criticism. please go ahead, I have thick skin. But, as you can see, I am digging around for opportunities to make myself healthier, please comment add to that as well.

Thank you everyone for reading this far!

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I haven't gotten serious about doing IF yet because of my shift working rotation, I think it would be quite easy working nights if I just set my mind to it. My conception of IF is a specific window of time each day for eating ( i.e. 8/16, 4/20, maybe even an occasional 24 hour period of not eating) but definitely not a muscle wasting multiple day starvation thing.

No major criticism here. I think the organ fats would be the more worrisome.

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I haven't gotten serious about doing IF yet because of my shift working rotation, I think it would be quite easy working nights if I just set my mind to it. My conception of IF is a specific window of time each day for eating ( i.e. 8/16, 4/20, maybe even an occasional 24 hour period of not eating)
but definitely not a muscle wasting multiple day starvation thing.

No major criticism here. I think the organ fats would be the more worrisome.
it is my understanding that the period of glucogenisis is the the phase where your body breaks down proteins. This happens after the body burns through its glycogen stores, and before you reach full ketosis.

so there are a few ways to minimize its effect. 1) fast less than 36 hours, ending your fast before you burn off all your glycogen, 2) extend your fasts into the 7-14 day range with only one pass through glucogenisis or 3) maintain a ketosis state with a LCHF diet. with the third option, you fasts can be any length you want.

there was a study done a few years back that confirmed the safety of alternate day fasting. At the end of the 12week study, the average weight loss and fat loss was similar to a control group that ate the same average calories but didnt fast.

The fasted group lost 100g of lean mass. I'm sure there are some that might argue that the 100g wasnt muscle because it could be minerals or skin. I personally consider it a negligable amount to give a hoot about.

Ultimately, I could probably gain 100grams of muscle in that time frame simply by weight training and taking advantage of the increased growth hormone that is released during fasting.

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