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Another study on statins and cholesterol


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Old 09-18-2018, 13:35   #1
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Glad I never took statins even with my cardiologist and primary encouraging me to do so.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/728095...ease-evidence/

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I read such studies years ago. No relation between cholesterol & heart disease. Research & studies have different results, depending on who funded them. Most are funded by pharmaceutical companies, so the results are predictable.
Most doctors will push statins because of their continuing education....also funded by pharmaceutical companies. It's well worth the investment.

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I never took them either even though my MD prescribed them to me in 1991. The only meds I take is Metformin. I controlled my diabetes for ten years with diet and exercise from 2004 to 2014. In 2014 I had to finally go on Medformin. I meditate to try to control my blood pressure. So far it's working. And btw, they did a study maybe 2 or 3 years back that said that statins can CAUSE diabetes. Thank you, but no thank you

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Here's where the real, unbiased science is heading:


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Wanna know how to collapse your heart disease risk? Ok then.
Very informative. Thank you!

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My Dr. says that Medicare keeps telling him that I need to start taking statins because I am a type 2 diabetic. I control my BS with a LCHF diet and have never had an A1C over 6.4. Do my best to keep BS under 140. Take 1000 mg. of met daily. I have been a blood donor for over 30 years. Never a total cholesterol over 170. My HDL is always over 45. I told him if he needs to check a box I will get them but wonít take them as I donít understand the reason. It is my belief that this is another ADA type thing that you needs to eat a lot carbs which I have proved to him is wrong. Am I wrong? Thanks for letting me vent.
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My Dr. says that Medicare keeps telling him that I need to start taking statins because I am a type 2 diabetic. I control my BS with a LCHF diet and have never had an A1C over 6.4. Do my best to keep BS under 140. Take 1000 mg. of met daily. I have been a blood donor for over 30 years. Never a total cholesterol over 170. My HDL is always over 45. I told him if he needs to check a box I will get them but wonít take them as I donít understand the reason. It is my belief that this is another ADA type thing that you needs to eat a lot carbs which I have proved to him is wrong. Am I wrong? Thanks for letting me vent.
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The "Because you're diabetic" excuse is used to push many other drugs - daily aspirin, blood pressure drugs to "protect" your kidneys (even when blood pressure is normal), blood thinners to "prevent a stroke."
My father was not diabetic, but the fact that he was 80 years old was enough reason for his doctor to convince him to take daily aspirin. I had to drive him to the ER several times for intestinal bleeding during bathroom visits caused by the aspirin. During one visit, the ER doctor told me, "Another few minutes & he would have bled out." I asked him, "don't you think the aspirin is doing more harm than good?" He said, "No...he should keep taking it." He stopped taking it & no more bleeding. He died 10 years later from a fall.

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I took the statins that my doctor prescribed at first. Then I quit taking them because I had seen how it crippled my mother. She lost her muscle strength in her arms and legs.

At the next visit he wanted to double the dosage. I admitted that I wasn't taking them and he relented on the dosage. I was taking COQ10 to negate any side effects. After thinking about it I quit taking them again.

My "good cholesterol" was so high at my last exam was so high they couldn't measure it (over 100). I finally told him I wasn't taking it and he didn't argue.
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It only took me 7 years to tell him.

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I took the statins that my doctor prescribed at first. Then I quit taking them because I had seen how it crippled my mother. She lost her muscle strength in her arms and legs.

At the next visit he wanted to double the dosage. I admitted that I wasn't taking them and he relented on the dosage. I was taking COQ10 to negate any side effects. After thinking about it I quit taking them again.

My "good cholesterol" was so high at my last exam was so high they couldn't measure it (over 100). I finally told him I wasn't taking it and he didn't argue.
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It only took me 7 years to tell him.
You are quite fortunate.
One guy at my diabetes support group was a retired pharmacist who got very angry at me when I voiced my opinion during a discussion about statins & brought several articles about their risks & whether there was any benefit. Naturally, being a medical professional, he got angry with me & insisted they helped him. We didn't see him for several meetings. When he came back, he had quite a story to tell. He was relaxing, watching TV & when he tried to get up, his legs wouldn't work. Since he lived alone, he spent four days on the floor until someone came to check on him. He wasn't able to crawl; no bathroom, no water, no food. After two weeks in the hospital & two more months in a convalescent home, he went home - in a wheelchair permanently. At the next meeting, he had a full-time nurse. He said his doctor brushed aside the statin risk by saying, "complications are rare." I doubt that is comforting to him. He went from being an active, tennis-playing 70-year old to a disabled person, unable to walk - no use of his legs. He hasn't been to a meeting for a year & (from the way he sounded at that meeting,) we suspect he committed suicide.
To be clear, I have no problem with assuming the risk of any drug....provided there is a clear benefit that makes it worth the risk. I don't think that's the case with statins.

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