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Old 04-01-2019, 19:59   #11
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I don't trust much of what I read and hear about diabetes! Therefore I error on the side of keeping my sugar levels as low as I can....below five seems to be where I and my will power meet! If you know what I mean! Some on here keep in the 4 range, they are strong welled, disciplined folks....I think!

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I don't trust much of what I read and hear about diabetes! Therefore I error on the side of keeping my sugar levels as low as I can....below five seems to be where I and my will power meet! If you know what I mean! Some on here keep in the 4 range, they are strong welled, disciplined folks....I think!
It's somewhat of a tight rope - I wish I had the stats or that someone was tracking them but many of the diabetes control studies that were done about 10 - 15 years ago were cancelled because of the high mortality rate of their subjects - the tighter control the more likely you're going to die from a hypo. Not sure if this just applies to Type 1s or all Types. Probably just Type 1s but when all is said and done - most of us are left with a judgement call - run my sugars low and risk mortality because of hypos or run them higher and risk an increase chance of complications.

Hell of a choice to make - isn't it!

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I try to avoid anything that is labeled "Safe for Diabetics", "Formulated for Diabetics", "Diabetic Friendly", "No Sugar Added", etc., because testing after eating them, my meter says NO, NO, NO. You could probably could eat some in much smaller portions than their recommended serving sizes, but then again you better take a good look at that too, because they will try to be sneaky and show the carbs per serving is quite small. The serving size is usually smaller than most people would even think about eating in reality.

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It's somewhat of a tight rope - I wish I had the stats or that someone was tracking them but many of the diabetes control studies that were done about 10 - 15 years ago were cancelled because of the high mortality rate of their subjects - the tighter control the more likely you're going to die from a hypo. Not sure if this just applies to Type 1s or all Types. Probably just Type 1s but when all is said and done - most of us are left with a judgement call - run my sugars low and risk mortality because of hypos or run them higher and risk an increase chance of complications.

Hell of a choice to make - isn't it!
I would think the means of control would weigh heavily on the risks in those studies. Eat what you want and try to chase your BG with insulin would be subject more to having hypos of a higher severity level than doing something that would reduce the need for as much insulin. I would think 10-15 years ago the majority of advice and practice was more of the former rather than the latter. Was sliding scale the standard for that time period for dosing insulin with carb:insulin ratios and correction factors coming later on?

I don't think anything totally eliminates the risks of hypos for anyone taking insulin even with the best systems of management because there are too many factors and some we have no control over.

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I would think the means of control would weigh heavily on the risks in those studies. Eat what you want and try to chase your BG with insulin would be subject more to having hypos of a higher severity level than doing something that would reduce the need for as much insulin. I would think 10-15 years ago the majority of advice and practice was more of the former rather than the latter. Was sliding scale the standard for that time period for dosing insulin with carb:insulin ratios and correction factors coming later on?

I don't think anything totally eliminates the risks of hypos for anyone taking insulin even with the best systems of management because there are too many factors and some we have no control over.
I'm a bit bios on that one I guess as in the last 52 years I've come close to death about 7 times because of low blood sugars - I don't have diabetes complications (other than the threat of low blood sugars) and my A1Cs usually stay in the high 7s often the low 8s.

There's a growing theory that complications are caused by ones genetic mutations and less from control (as it relates to Type 1). Knowing some type 1 s that seemed to do all the right things and are dead now while I have lived a much riskier life with less worries (by choice) with no complications and good physical health - I'm tending to lean more toward the genetic mutation theory (for Type 1s) but that runs counter productive to the industry where money is made in the billions with new and current diabetes management products/pharmaceuticals.

But this is just a theory - that I tend to take seriously the longer I live with the condition - other related members who also have Type 1 in my extended family tend to be like me. Looser control no complications.

This is by no means uncommon as studies are being done and have been done on why some people escape complications in Type 1.

Where ever the truth lies - it sure is fascinating.

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I try to avoid anything that is labeled "Safe for Diabetics", "Formulated for Diabetics", "Diabetic Friendly", "No Sugar Added", etc., because testing after eating them, my meter says NO, NO, NO. You could probably could eat some in much smaller portions than their recommended serving sizes, but then again you better take a good look at that too, because they will try to be sneaky and show the carbs per serving is quite small. The serving size is usually smaller than most people would even think about eating in reality.
Even things that say 'sugar free' are sometimes loaded with carbs.

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I even avoid foods that say "Lite" or "Light". That usually means they took out the fat and added something carby to make it palatable.

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