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Old 12-23-2012, 10:36   #11
 
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Metformin is a fairly safe drug, so even if you want to totally eliminate your meds, it might be best to stick with the Metformin for a while until you get your bg under control. At that time you can decide whether you want to keep on taking it or try giving it a go without any meds at all.

It is important to get your bg below 140 and keep it there because that is where the complications can start. To do that, test 1 and 2 hrs. after you take your first bite of food. If either of those readings is 140 or above, cut down the number of carbs you eat at the next meal. It won't be long until you know about how many carbs you can eat per meal and still keep your bg under control.

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What answer do you want to hear, yes or no. The only way to find the answer is try. Drop the Insulin sucking Glib.

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How high was his A1C when his doctor tried to put him on Glip? How is he doing now without it? Thank you for your response.
A1c on diagnosis was 11.8 in September. Recent A1c this month is 5.7. He never took the Glip. Only Metformin and LCHF His A1c is better than mine in 3 months and I've been at this awhile!

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Metformin is a fairly safe drug, so even if you want to totally eliminate your meds, it might be best to stick with the Metformin for a while until you get your bg under control. At that time you can decide whether you want to keep on taking it or try giving it a go without any meds at all.

It is important to get your bg below 140 and keep it there because that is where the complications can start. To do that, test 1 and 2 hrs. after you take your first bite of food. If either of those readings is 140 or above, cut down the number of carbs you eat at the next meal. It won't be long until you know about how many carbs you can eat per meal and still keep your bg under control.
So after 12years you think I can get off meds altogether if I eat right and exercise.You don't think it's to late or I've messed up my system to bad?

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It's not too late. It makes sense that when you went on the Glip you gained weight because it squeezed more insulin out of your pancreas. If you eat a lower carb diet and stop the Glip, monitor your BG, and keep taking the Metformin, you have a very good chance of being able to lower your A1C a lot. The most important part is lowering the carbs. What's a typical day for you meal-wise?

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When my A1C was down to five, I was eating mostly veggies, so very few carbohydrates. However, that was eleven years ago. I am wondering... Do you think that I can still pull this off, with my current A1C at 7.4, even though I've been on this medication for so long?
On this forum and another that I visit, there are definitely people who have controlled by diet for years, even decades, so it is possible for some.

One thing I found is that I had to increase my fat intake and lower my protein intake. (Protein metabolizes into glucose.) It took me a while to actually do that because of the fear of fat that's been drummed into everyone over the last ten years or so, but it helped a lot. If you didn't try that the last time, and you don't have any personal history (or direct family history) of heart disease, that might be something you could try.

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Hi MyLady!

I'm sorry to hear what you are going through. I'm kind of there myself. From what you've written, it sounds like your doc immediately put you on meds first when you were diagnosed and didn't encourage plain diet and exercise - is that correct? That could be the problem.

I know that when I was diagnosed nearly two years ago, my doctor didn't give me meds right away and just told me to eat right and exercise for the first couple of months and we'll take it from there. I knew absolutely nothing about diabetes at the time, but thankfully I found this website and from the first night of diagnosis, I found out what I was supposed to eat and how exercise would affect my BS. So I went into action - for the first three months, I ate very low carb, about 30 carbs a day (Dr. Richard Bernstein's diet) - and took long walks in the park for about two hours. When I went back to my doctor, she was amazed. My AIC had dropped from 11.3 down to a near 6 and I had lost 30 pounds. She literally called me her "star patient" and said she had never seen this happen before. I told her fear is a great cure-all. So, YES, it CAN be done with just diet and exercise - as long as you have that fear.

Somewhere along the way, I lost the fear. Things went downhill. I had some personal and financial setbacks, which stressed me out so much I went back to my "normal" way of stress eating, which included Ben & Jerry's for breakfast. I found myself suddenly near homelessness and had to eat high-carb stuff from food banks (pasta, rice and such) and my health and BS spun out of control.

I went to an endo, who put me on meds like Metformin, Januvia, and others that did absolutely nothing for me. I am now on Lantus insulin, which in the beginning gave me great morning numbers (70's and 80'). Then, I fell off the wagon again with these damn holidays and all the food around. For the past two months, I've been waking up in the low 100's (110-130), which isn't as bad as your numbers, but scaring me because I'd been in the "normal" range.

So, basically, I am where you are - I have gained back all the weight I lost - plus more - and my diet is a roller-coaster. HOWEVER, I must say this: I gave myself permission to pig out on Christmas leftovers and today I am paying the price for it. I ate so much junk yesterday that my side is cramping and I feel nauseus. It just IS NOT worth it. I figured I would get it all out of my system and then start new on January 1, back on the Bernstein diet. But I have to learn to set limits - I am a major stress eater with major stress going on, so I have to become more disciplined. I am realizing that I'll give myself permission to eat tasty stuff on Thanksgiving & Christmas, but only for one day and get rid of all the leftovers.

So, New Years Day I do plan to take back my life and my diet and my control over Diabetes instead of letting it control me. You CAN do it with just diet and exercise but it will be a little more difficult if you are on a medication that promotes weight gain. Maybe talk to your endo about just doing Metformin along with diet and exercise. Hopefully, you will see some great results!


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((((Moosha)))) Thanks for full disclosure - I've had problems myself, especially since Thanksgiving when some family problems reared their ugly heads. Stress eating is a real predicament, and the only defense I have is keeping only low-carb food around. But that doesn't help a whole lot since we're also eating out quite a bit during this stressful time. Let's stay in touch & make this new year a true turnaround, okay?




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((((Moosha)))) Thanks for full disclosure - I've had problems myself, especially since Thanksgiving when some family problems reared their ugly heads. Stress eating is a real predicament, and the only defense I have is keeping only low-carb food around. But that doesn't help a whole lot since we're also eating out quite a bit during this stressful time. Let's stay in touch & make this new year a true turnaround, okay?
Hi Shanny!

It is SOOOO hard to stay on track. I am really hoping to do better in 2013. Things are looking up personally and financially for me, so I would hate to blow it with complications creeping up on me. I'll definitely be around more often to support and be supported!

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On this forum and another that I visit, there are definitely people who have controlled by diet for years, even decades, so it is possible for some.

One thing I found is that I had to increase my fat intake and lower my protein intake. (Protein metabolizes into glucose.) It took me a while to actually do that because of the fear of fat that's been drummed into everyone over the last ten years or so, but it helped a lot. If you didn't try that the last time, and you don't have any personal history (or direct family history) of heart disease, that might be something you could try.

Hi Mar2a,

I was curious about your comment on protein intake - can you give an example of how much protein you limit yourself to on a daily basis? I was always told that more protein would be better because it would be more filling and prevent over-carbing.

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