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Old 01-05-2013, 02:32   #1
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So here I am with BG numbers that span from mid-normal to high-normal on the various charts and sites I read. So technically I'm not Diabetic. But I fear that it's just like Shanny said in another post. "Diabetes is like being pregnant. Either you are or you aren't." When I disregard my condition, my numbers get higher. When I eat carefully and stay active my numbers get lower. It only makes sense to eat right and workout.

Luckily I already have the habit of working out 5+ times a week, and I like healthy foods almost as much as junk. And luckily my numbers are OK without medication.

Is my assesment correct? Any comments?

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Forewarned is forearmed. You are correct in your assessment of the situation. Slowly but surely you should wean away from the "junk" foods towards the "healthy" foods. To know the difference is the trick.

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Just as sbk says, once you start to see blood glucose numbers consistently higher than 90 mg/dL you need to start thinking about trimming them down.

Exercise helps but do have a hard look at the carbohydrate content of your diet. A cut back here will make a huge difference.

Have a look at this site: Blood Sugar 101 and in particular this bit How to Lower Your Blood Sugar With luck, if you follow the ideas it gives you, you need never qualify for full membership of this little club.

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T2 D in the beginning is like climbing a hill you don't want to climb, there's a cliff waiting for you at the top. Once you fall off the cliff control and life style become a whole lot harder to manage.

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I believe that there is absolutely no difference between "pre-diabetes" and diabetes. Your body is either able to control your blood sugar at all times (not just fasting) or it isn't.

I am in the opposite situation as you. I was diagnosed with T2, fasting of 397 and a A1C of 10.7. 2 years later, my fasting is around 90 and my A1C is 5 (whoopee!). They want to relabel me as "pre-diabetic" or even not diabetic at all. When I explain that I would be right back in the 300's easy if I ate "normally", they still don't get it...

The way I think about it is that since my body can't regulate its BG anymore, it is my job now.
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Daytona, maybe you should let them re-label you, for insurance reasons?

kickinit, I'm pre-d. My doctor says she diagnoses by A1c and fasting. Both of those numbers are still firmly in the pre-diabetic range (5.8 and 107 at the dr's office), but my post-prandial numbers can be very high. I've had more than a dozen over 200 in six months. Two nights ago I was 197 at 1 hour, 172 at 2 hours, and 137 at three hours because I had 46 grams of carbs at dinner.

Others have advised me to consider myself diabetic, and not just pre-d, and that's probably sound advice. If I dropped my low-carb way of eating, I'm sure that it wouldn't be long before my fasting and A1c did cross the line into full-blown. My problem is that I feel like such a hypochondriac calling myself a diabetic when my doctor says I'm not, but that's my psychological problem -- or, as they used to say in the 60s and early 70s, that's my hang-up

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Daytona, maybe you should let them re-label you, for insurance reasons?
My understanding is that I would still have diabetes as a pre-existing condition, affecting my insurance. They could search my health records and see the diagnosis. But if I don't have a current diagnosis insurance would not pay for strips, etc.

I just ran into this because I switched insurance in March. I went to a new doctor in November, they did a general physical (not diabetes related) and an A1C. The insurance denied the ENTIRE claim because of my pre-existing condition and that I was in a "pre-existing condition waiting period". Good to know my $300/month premium is going to good use...

The whole situation is funny/sad/infuriating because when my husband signed up he explicitly asked about my diabetes and was told that it was a group plan with no pre-existing condition clause. *sigh* I can't wait for 2014...

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Daytona, that's so aggravating!

My insurance doesn't pay for strips because I'm just pre-d, so I bought the Relion meters from Walmart. (Other stores are now doing low-cost brands; I've seen them at Target and heard that Kroger grocery stores have some.) I don't know if that would help you while you wait out your three months. I find the Relion Prime (the cheaper of the two) runs a little higher, but it's close enough. For example, my 197 the other night might have been a 187, but it's close enough for me to say "That's high."

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My understanding is that I would still have diabetes as a pre-existing condition, affecting my insurance. They could search my health records and see the diagnosis. But if I don't have a current diagnosis insurance would not pay for strips, etc.

I just ran into this because I switched insurance in March. I went to a new doctor in November, they did a general physical (not diabetes related) and an A1C. The insurance denied the ENTIRE claim because of my pre-existing condition and that I was in a "pre-existing condition waiting period". Good to know my $300/month premium is going to good use...

The whole situation is funny/sad/infuriating because when my husband signed up he explicitly asked about my diabetes and was told that it was a group plan with no pre-existing condition clause. *sigh* I can't wait for 2014...
My new insurance tried to pre exist me, but couldn't because I had a certificate of credible coverage from my old insurance. Just had to ask the old insurance for it

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My new insurance tried to pre exist me, but couldn't because I had a certificate of credible coverage from my old insurance. Just had to ask the old insurance for it
They didn't seem to care that I was insured previously. Basically they refuse to pay for diabetes stuff for the first year. I am in the process of fighting it...

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