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Old 05-12-2013, 23:01   #1
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Ok, so sometimes I eat something bad, pizza, cake, ice cream, bread, chips, etc...I sometimes go up high and other times I dont....I dont know the science behind the whys but I want to know what I can do at that moment when I test and I am at say a 184 or 177??? Is there anything I can do to bring it down fast?! I usually just wait it out till it comes down on its own. It use to come down fairly quickly but now days it is taking longer and longer to come down, any reason for this???
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All I know to tell you is exercise. Go for a brisk walk, or some other activity. For non-insulin-dependent diabetics, this is the very reason it's better to not risk these high levels, because there's really no quick easy way to get back down.




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Not to be too blunt, but why do you keep "cheating"? Do you want to be around for your chldren's milestones? First dates? Proms? Graduation? First job? Wedding?

You're probably not recovering as quickly because you're not giving your body what it needs to recover. You have a potentially fatal disease but you're not treating it as one.

I don't mean to treat you as a child, but you've been around long enough for some tough love.

Is it easy to resist the harmful carbs? No, at the beginning. But the longer you stay away from the carbs, the easier it gets. I know it sounds cliche but you have to treat Diabetes as a full-time job. In a work environment, you wouldn't be allowed the slack at your job that you're performing at with D.

Is it hard to face for the rest of your life? Da** right! But you have to convince yourself you're worth the effort it will take. I know you can do it, because I see it happening every minute of every day. You need to treat every morsel of food that goes in your mouth as a life-or-death piece of food. EVERY SINGLE THING THAT YOU EAT AND DRINK! And, yes, I meant to yell. You're killing yourself for every tick above 140 on your meter.

You can and must learn how to configure your eating habits to help heal your body, to keep the damage at bay. And we're here to help you do it.

Any time you are tempted to put something carby or sweet in your mouth, pour yourself a cold glass of water and get on the forum and read every single thread from beginning to end until the urge passes. Keep proper food in your pantry, in your purse or briefcase, in your car and at your job so you're not faced with whatever carb you're attracted to in that moment.

Okay. I'm done ranting. Ultimately, it's all up to you. I just hate seeing someone like you throw it all away. You have great potential and I'd like to count you as a friend - that's why I lectured you as I did.

It's up to you now.

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It use to come down fairly quickly but now days it is taking longer and longer to come down, any reason for this???.
Your diabetes has progressed to the point where your 2nd phase insulin response, the one that puts out insulin after about an hour or so after eating, is no longer enough to cover more carbs.

The best way to preserve pancreatic function (i.e. insulin production) is to not stress it with the need to produce more insulin than it is able to do.

If you cannot maintain a low enough carb diet to keep BG down, then perhaps you should have some fast-acting insulin to use when your BG rises above 140. Having those high numbers often is a recipe for trouble in the future.

and... to answer your thread question.... No, there's not really anything you can do other than mild exercise, which only works some.

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How long is it taking for you to come down? I've spent a lot of time the past month in numbers ranging from 200-255ish while eating LC, until the doctor got my medicine plan/strategy straight. It kept going up on its own (& still sometimes does) for no apparent reason. The first thing I do is test every 15 minutes to make sure it's starting to come down. I also go for a walk, if I am able to, and I increase the amount of fluid I drink until I come down. I don't know that it does anything scientific, but it gives me peace of mind that I don't get dehydrated & tends to make me feel better. How long's it taking to come down when you go high?

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All I know to tell you is exercise. Go for a brisk walk, or some other activity. For non-insulin-dependent diabetics, this is the very reason it's better to not risk these high levels, because there's really no quick easy way to get back down.
This ^! Go for a brisk walk minimum of 20 minutes (that works for me) Gotta get those leg muscles moving and the heart pumping just a bit.

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All I can advise, for this moment, is exercise plus time.

Now. About the future ...

I would advise you to drop those "bad foods" completely -- for a solid commitment of a week or four. By the end of that time, I suspect you'll feel much better -- maybe even better enough for a long-term commitment.

That's what keeps us going! Not some vague future, but a better Now!

We diabetics are truly lucky in that way ... when our condition is under control, we can feel it. It's not just a bunch of numbers.

If we never work on control, we never get to enjoy the payoff. Starting -- and committing -- is tough at first. But it pays off pretty darn quick!

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Not to be too blunt, but why do you keep "cheating"? Do you want to be around for your chldren's milestones? First dates? Proms? Graduation? First job? Wedding?

You're probably not recovering as quickly because you're not giving your body what it needs to recover. You have a potentially fatal disease but you're not treating it as one.

I don't mean to treat you as a child, but you've been around long enough for some tough love.

Is it easy to resist the harmful carbs? No, at the beginning. But the longer you stay away from the carbs, the easier it gets. I know it sounds cliche but you have to treat Diabetes as a full-time job. In a work environment, you wouldn't be allowed the slack at your job that you're performing at with D.

Is it hard to face for the rest of your life? Da** right! But you have to convince yourself you're worth the effort it will take. I know you can do it, because I see it happening every minute of every day. You need to treat every morsel of food that goes in your mouth as a life-or-death piece of food. EVERY SINGLE THING THAT YOU EAT AND DRINK! And, yes, I meant to yell. You're killing yourself for every tick above 140 on your meter.

You can and must learn how to configure your eating habits to help heal your body, to keep the damage at bay. And we're here to help you do it.

Any time you are tempted to put something carby or sweet in your mouth, pour yourself a cold glass of water and get on the forum and read every single thread from beginning to end until the urge passes. Keep proper food in your pantry, in your purse or briefcase, in your car and at your job so you're not faced with whatever carb you're attracted to in that moment.

Okay. I'm done ranting. Ultimately, it's all up to you. I just hate seeing someone like you throw it all away. You have great potential and I'd like to count you as a friend - that's why I lectured you as I did.

It's up to you now.
I know this post was not directed at me but I want to grab it and own the lesson in it and heart behind it. I got Dx about 5 weeks ago and I have been on this forum about 2 weeks. I am still struggling, cheating is easy and the "menu" still confusing and hard but I know I need to keep going.

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Not to be too blunt, but why do you keep "cheating"? Do you want to be around for your chldren's milestones? First dates? Proms? Graduation? First job? Wedding?

You're probably not recovering as quickly because you're not giving your body what it needs to recover. You have a potentially fatal disease but you're not treating it as one.

I don't mean to treat you as a child, but you've been around long enough for some tough love.

Is it easy to resist the harmful carbs? No, at the beginning. But the longer you stay away from the carbs, the easier it gets. I know it sounds cliche but you have to treat Diabetes as a full-time job. In a work environment, you wouldn't be allowed the slack at your job that you're performing at with D.

Is it hard to face for the rest of your life? Da** right! But you have to convince yourself you're worth the effort it will take. I know you can do it, because I see it happening every minute of every day. You need to treat every morsel of food that goes in your mouth as a life-or-death piece of food. EVERY SINGLE THING THAT YOU EAT AND DRINK! And, yes, I meant to yell. You're killing yourself for every tick above 140 on your meter.

You can and must learn how to configure your eating habits to help heal your body, to keep the damage at bay. And we're here to help you do it.

Any time you are tempted to put something carby or sweet in your mouth, pour yourself a cold glass of water and get on the forum and read every single thread from beginning to end until the urge passes. Keep proper food in your pantry, in your purse or briefcase, in your car and at your job so you're not faced with whatever carb you're attracted to in that moment.

Okay. I'm done ranting. Ultimately, it's all up to you. I just hate seeing someone like you throw it all away. You have great potential and I'd like to count you as a friend - that's why I lectured you as I did.

It's up to you now.
I KNOW that every word you said is so true. I know i've been told this a bazillion times and I get it but I just cant seem to do it. I can look at my kids/grandkids as I put chips into my mouth..I hate it afterwards but yet the addiction is so dang strong that I can seem to stop myself, its like my mind, mouth and hand all have a mind to themselves and I am just a bystander.

I hate that I am so addicted to carbs/sweets, I absolutely hate the fact that I AM so weak! I am going to try some sweets substitues like sugar free jello, sugar free whip cream to put on the jello and I eat the 86 % dark chocolate for my chocolate fix.

Honestly I am such a picker dang eater too that I dont know what to eat anymore. I eat a lot of meat for protein and i'm sick to death of meat. I eat alot of mixed veggies that I am ok with still eating, I eat cheese and I dont like it alot, I eat a lot of strawberries because I love smoothies and it helps my sweets cravings...is there a pill to take to drown these cravings? I literally asked my dentist years ago if he could pull my sweet tooth, he had no sense of humor about it...I wish it could happen that way though.

Just know that I am out here trying still, daily, minute by minute even, with every bite I feel the guilt and shame, ugggh, its awful but its controlling me, I'm so serious when I say that. I have zero control over my cravings and I dont know how to get through it.

I wrote down some notes about the water and coming here and reading things, and to treat every piece of food as life or death. I'm going to do with some how some way, its just a big ole pain to fight this every second of every day!

 
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How long is it taking for you to come down? I've spent a lot of time the past month in numbers ranging from 200-255ish while eating LC, until the doctor got my medicine plan/strategy straight. It kept going up on its own (& still sometimes does) for no apparent reason. The first thing I do is test every 15 minutes to make sure it's starting to come down. I also go for a walk, if I am able to, and I increase the amount of fluid I drink until I come down. I don't know that it does anything scientific, but it gives me peace of mind that I don't get dehydrated & tends to make me feel better. How long's it taking to come down when you go high?
It has been taking sometimes two hours for my numbers to come down. That is scary because because before it only took an hour and maybe fifteen minutes for them to come down.

The pizza the other day was thee worst! It took almost 4 hours to come down. I started at 113 and an hour later was at 125, half hour later 144, half hour later 177 and half hour after that 184. the next half hour it was 145 and even later then that was only at 125.

Hmmmm, after reading this i'm wondering if maybe it is just taking longer to get up there then it is to come down. Plus I was off Metformin for about 6 days or so and I was having some good ole swings there.

Just now I tested some sausage meat, ground hamburger mixed with veggies and a bit of some dreamfields. I started out at 113 and in an hour I went to 119 then 10 minutes later I was at 130 and 10 more minutes it started coming down and was at 123. ...I guess overall that was not too bad, it could of been worse and I thought it would be but I guess the mixed veggies helped out more for filling me up .

I did go back on the metformin 3 days ago but so far only at 500 mg extended release and not sure I want to go back up to 1000 twice a day, or maybe I will go 1000 once a day in the evening and get it over with all at one time..ugggh, i'm just as confused there as everywhere .

 
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