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Old 08-31-2013, 19:23   #1
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ok, so I've asked this before but never got a real answer.
Example: if I am eating under 50 carbs a day to stay in ketosis
what difference does it make where them carbs come from?

Today I was really craving a piece of toast with butter and I didn't have it which led me to ask this on here. If I want to use 7 of my carbs for a piece of toast why is this a bad thing?

Also can someone tell me if the ketostix is in the dark purple but the meter says 03 am I still in ketosis?

This morning I woke up still in the dark purple but as they day has waned on it is going down in color and now i'm in the pink. I have not eaten much today so I guess that is why. I'm making up for it now though. Obviously if you don't eat you don't stay in ketosis either right?

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Basically, high carb items don't fill you up. So you stay hungry and eat more than you should.

In three years I've not had any bread, rice or pasta. All old favourites and I no longer miss them.

My carbs come from veggies with small quantities coming from things like nuts which although high fat do have a few carbs.

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To me though 7 carbs is not a lot of carbs if it is something that you want to use your carbs on. I can see if it was half my carb allotment for the day but I get your point. I thought 7 carbs with a very high fat breakfast would be good or ok because you should get and stay filled up from the fats.

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Basically, high carb items don't fill you up. So you stay hungry and eat more than you should.

In three years I've not had any bread, rice or pasta. All old favourites and I no longer miss them.

My carbs come from veggies with small quantities coming from things like nuts which although high fat do have a few carbs.

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But you're trying to ignore the fact that all carbs are not the same. A rose may be a rose, but a carb is not just a carb.

There are fast-acting hard-hitting carbs like toast - made with refined wheat flour with some sugar & other carby ingredients - which are going to hit your bloodstream almost immediately and reset your 'clock' to wanting MORE carbs, just as John said. And then there are slow-acting soft-hitting carbs like broccoli which require a lot larger serving to be 7g of carbs, so you have to do a lot more chewing and digesting before it hits your bloodstream.




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Puppy,

All these issues are judgement calls.

As I see it the rules of the game are that we set our target for blood glucose level, influenced by things like whether we want to be in ketosis as an aid to control, what medication we are prepared to take and our personal tastes.

If a slice of bread with breakfast works for you, then enjoy.

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Dangit.
for some reason today I am wanting something other then the same ole same ole and that toast surely sounded good, broccoli? yuck!
I guess I get your point now but I don't like it

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But you're trying to ignore the fact that all carbs are not the same. A rose may be a rose, but a carb is not just a carb.

There are fast-acting hard-hitting carbs like toast - made with refined wheat flour with some sugar & other carby ingredients - which are going to hit your bloodstream almost immediately and reset your 'clock' to wanting MORE carbs, just as John said. And then there are slow-acting soft-hitting carbs like broccoli which require a lot larger serving to be 7g of carbs, so you have to do a lot more chewing and digesting before it hits your bloodstream.

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Puppy,

All these issues are judgement calls.

As I see it the rules of the game are that we set our target for blood glucose level, influenced by things like whether we want to be in ketosis as an aid to control, what medication we are prepared to take and our personal tastes.

If a slice of bread with breakfast works for you, then enjoy.
If NOT being in ketosis means I could safely have a piece of toast because 7 carbs don't spike me then that is what I have to consider???

If being in ketosis has not benefited me much that I can tell then I have to decide if being in it is what I really want. I wanted to lose weight like everyone else tells about but I've lost very little to nothing. If waiting longer is what it may take then I will do that but if after a while it does not benefit me then I may go low carb and I can have my stupid piece of toast. Just one of them days when I am wanting things like toast, a few chips, etc..

I was at the bank today and on Saturdays they have free donuts!
I took one and took a bite and threw it away, it tasted like wax but I still wanted that piece of toast but I know a few months ago I would of had at least 2 or them donuts. I guess I will go do something else to occupy my mind like a glass of hwc chocolate milk!

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Ketosis is merely an indicator of your body burning fat rather than carbohydrate. Although some of the members of the forum use it as an important measure, the issue for us is to control our blood sugar. Whether we achieve ketosis or not is a detail. The odd time I've measured my ketone level it suggests that I'm not achieving it.

We can control blood sugar in basically two ways.

We can medicate using insulin or insulin generating medications. That will give us a roller coaster ride to complications down the track - possibly a long way down the track but... In addition, the extra insulin load will do nothing for our weight control.

Or we can keep our carbohydrate level low and cut back on medications. This will also help with weight control but these changes will take time - months rather than days. Each time we allow ourselves "a treat" particularly with fast acting carbohydrates we postpone the day that our carbohydrate addiction becomes a thing of the past.

But it is our own choice to make.
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I took one and took a bite and threw it away, it tasted like wax
Hold that thought, girl! And call up the memory every time you want toast!

It isn't like I don't know about the toast addiction . . . from childhood on up to 2009 when I was diagnosed diabetic, I ate toast by the ton. I would come home from elementary school, slam two slices of Mom's homemade bread into the toaster, slather it with homemade butter my grandma gave us, and I was in heaven. For 60 years I was the toast queen of the world! You aren't alone in this, y'know.




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Hold that thought, girl! And call up the memory every time you want toast!

It isn't like I don't know about the toast addiction . . . from childhood on up to 2009 when I was diagnosed diabetic, I ate toast by the ton. I would come home from elementary school, slam two slices of Mom's homemade bread into the toaster, slather it with homemade butter my grandma gave us, and I was in heaven. For 60 years I was the toast queen of the world! You aren't alone in this, y'know.
ooooooooh that sounds soooooo goooooood!!!!!

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