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Old 10-27-2013, 14:39   #1
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Default How to know if I crosed over from Pre D to full D?

I have a feeling that I did because my fastings went not only from the 114 to 119 range but the last 3 days have been between 120 and 122 and my pp's have been high as well despite eating low carb, yesterday I had highs as high as 137 and though that may not be a lot it is still not normal for eating the same things. The other day I had a small piece of pizza and I jumped to a 182 and it took for ever to come back down where as before it only took a few hours to come down and same with something else I ate that was corn tortilla with only 8 carbs and that too took a while to come down.

Thee odd thing is though when I test when I get up at say 5 and I am 120 and I test again in an hour just to see how much I spiked from like DP now I am not even spiking, I am only going up a couple points, so I find that pretty odd too..

So if I do an at home a1c will that tell me if I crossed over?
I don't know how I could of though I've been eating so well!
Yes I had one slip up and don't blame everything on that because this was long before I ate that ok?

so....i'm not even too worried about it anymore but just curious. Maybe it is one of my new meds cause it seems things started to change about that time.

I now take atenolol and losartan (generic for cozaar) so maybe one of them tripped the switch...I will have to do some research on it..

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Puppy,

With this condition, there is no on/off switch.

Once your pancreas stops delivering full support for your carbohydrate intake, you need to take over management of it yourself.

For largely historical reasons each country (or State) has evolved a rule that says "above this number consider patient as diabetic" and "above that number consider them pre-diabetic".

These rules make it easy for doctors to hand out standard treatments (or in the case of pre-diabetic; sugary, reassuring noises) but don't change the situation.

If you are wise, there is no real change in management if your numbers move into the this number range.

The advice you receive from members of the forum remains valid. Blood glucose numbers will fluctuate, sometimes quite wildly as a result of many factors. Your medication may well contribute but so will colds and other infections. Your hormone balance changes throughout the month. That again will influence your numbers. Clearly your diet has an enormous bearing on it and not always at once.

The home A1c kits are helpful as they will help you to see if the pattern of blood glucose tests you have taken truly reflect what is happening but as I said in my first line - there's no on/off switch that will say to you "Oh dear, you're a full blown diabetic".

We are all different and whilst there are some basic principles to guide us, the only real fixed point is the idea of "eat to the meter". Described here - How to Lower Your Blood Sugar

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I just read that the Atenolol could be a cause of it.
I know people on here are taking it too and have not had problems
but I read several reviews of people that DID have the problem and one lady even who said she just started a new Dr. who took it off her because type 2 diabetics should not take it.

I read about Losartan that it is given to help kidney function in type 2's so not sure that that means it wont raise BG but ya never know.
I've only been on both for about two weeks now.
I take the Atenolol in the a.m. with the thyroid pill but test before I take anything and I take the losartan at bedtime. Maybe I will skip a dose of each and see if it affects anything..

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Ahhh, dreams of pizza and corn tortillas. Thanks for the memories.

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Ahhh, dreams of pizza and corn tortillas. Thanks for the memories.
WAKE UP! Z IT WAS S BAD DREAM! A NIGHT MERE! soooo not worth it and it didn't even taste that good LOL

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lol, no, I would never eat them now. I have really good control of my diabetes and know what is and what is off limits. It's not worth it to me, for the sake of my health. I was just reminiscing. I am much stronger than a corn tortilla.
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Puppy,

Whilst I am all for avoiding medication when it is safe to do so particularly when it relates to diabetes, I would suggest you discuss your concerns about medications for other conditions with your doctor rather than just skipping a dose to see what it affects.
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lol, no, I would never eat them now. I have really good control of my diabetes and know what is and what is off limits. It's not worth it to me, for the sake of my health. I was just reminiscing. I am much stronger than a corn tortilla.
LOL I know you would never jeopardize your health and I hope I get there soon too!

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The difference between pre and D is a number that "they" draw in the sand. And over the years that line has been changing as in being lowered. I would not be as concerned with "crossing over" as much as your system is compromised and you need to control your BG as your body aint doing a good job anymore.

Take control now or beat up your pancreas more until you "cross over"

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I see it as a Good News/Bad News/Other sort of thing.

Diabetes, like any other chronic condition, moves in stages -- Bad News. However, if managed well, progression to more serious stages can be slowed, or even stopped -- Good News.

The Unwelcome News is that a growing number of professionals now believe there is no such thing as pre-diabetes. Assuming that's true, a "pre-diabetic" is actually a diabetic who was lucky enough to be diagnosed at a very early stage, and still has a chance to gain control so they can prevent complications from happening in the first place.

So, unfortunately, the "pre-diabetic" label is misleading. False comfort ain't no comfort at all.

All that aside ... here's some more Good News: You do recognize the need for action, and you're taking it! Puppy, you're well ahead of the pack!
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