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Old 11-12-2013, 22:42   #1
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My doctor wants to put me Welchol since I won't take statins for cholesterol. So... who can tell me a little about this drug, who likes it, who dislikes it and why for both types of reply?

I'll bet its pricey... haven't gotten there yet!

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Read about the side effects. They are very much like the statins, including muscle pain. It also inhibits the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins and of calcium.

The very short time I was on Cholestramine I immediately developed migraines. I took it for only a few days - this was for severe diarrhea (not cholesterol) and then found another route to clearing that up.

Personally, I wouldn't take any prescription for cholesterol. Lipids generally improve with the LC/HF way of eating.

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It's a resin, a substance that is indigestible and attracts fats. Once the fats (cholesterol) attach to it they can no longer be absorbed by the body either so there eliminated, via the flush technique. This drug will also collect all fat soluble vitamins and eliminate them.

Have you had a NMR LipoProtein test to determine densities. The densities of the selected cholesterol molecules is far more import than the amount of total cholesterol.

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Have you had a NMR LipoProtein test to determine densities. The densities of the selected cholesterol molecules is far more import than the amount of total cholesterol.
I have not. I need to return for some additional blood test so I'll ask for this test. We're looking for large, fluffy particles, right?

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Large fluffy. That's the good of the "bad"

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The cholesterol numbers in your signature are near perfect with the exception of HDL (It should be higher). Why are you or your doctor thinking of any drugs ? Even with the most conventional of medical practice statins begin with Total Cholesterol >200 & LDL >100.

So what am I missing ?

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Resins like that are indiscriminate about what type of cholesterol they attach to. You want everything to be large and fluffy.

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The cholesterol numbers in your signature are near perfect with the exception of HDL (It should be higher). Why are you or your doctor thinking of any drugs ? Even with the most conventional of medical practice statins begin with Total Cholesterol >200 & LDL >100.

So what am I missing ?
His doctor is getting a head start on the new recommendations that CNN reported on yesterday. Not looking at total and LDL anymore. Just the fact that he has diabetes is an automatic you need to be on statins. There are 3 others factors, don't remember them off hand.

You can't argue against ambiguous arbitrary reasoning right away by citing numerous clinical studies that go against the numerical based data they were using. Just like politics exploits the low information voters, pharmaceutical businesses are seeing the same easy exploitation to peddle their wares. A lot of people will fall for the new "just because" reasoning, because the numbers don't really mean anything now, its factor based. The fact that people above the number limits and not taking statins weren't keeling over dead left and right and some of those that were under the limit and taking statins were still suffering heart attacks, they can not explain (or should I say will not).

They say they won't make as much money because of generics on the market. They are expecting to double sales (prescriptions), the way I see it when sales double, so do profits.

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The cholesterol numbers in your signature are near perfect with the exception of HDL (It should be higher). Why are you or your doctor thinking of any drugs ? Even with the most conventional of medical practice statins begin with Total Cholesterol >200 & LDL >100.

So what am I missing ?
What is missing is my most recent readings. I wrote them down when the doctor called and promptly lost the paper they were written on. I'll pick up a printed copy of the report when I go back for the additional blood tests (low testosterone). The readings posted in my signature were early this year and I had been on a statin, Lovastatin, which I took myself off after reading posts here, information on the internet and anywhere else I could get information.

Which is why I'm reading and listening to all of you on this new drug. I would like to return to the doctor (after this next blood test) and have a reason (large fluffy particles) to refuse taking this new drug. When I get the printout, I'll post the new numbers. I do know that my A1c is 6.4... wish it were lower (always). I'm also hopeing to improve my lipid numbers as I am on the LCHF way of eating longer and longer. Time will tell!

My thanks to everyone for the input you've given me!


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What is missing is my most recent readings. I wrote them down when the doctor called and promptly lost the paper they were written on. I'll pick up a printed copy of the report when I go back for the additional blood tests (low testosterone). The readings posted in my signature were early this year and I had been on a statin, Lovastatin, which I took myself off after reading posts here, information on the internet and anywhere else I could get information.

Which is why I'm reading and listening to all of you on this new drug. I would like to return to the doctor (after this next blood test) and have a reason (large fluffy particles) to refuse taking this new drug. When I get the printout, I'll post the new numbers. I do know that my A1c is 6.4... wish it were lower (always). I'm also hopeing to improve my lipid numbers as I am on the LCHF way of eating longer and longer. Time will tell!

My thanks to everyone for the input you've given me!

Steve, my CVS pharmacy in Houston will give me 3 months of Welchol for $100 co pay.

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