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Old 11-29-2013, 06:08   #11
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Oh believe I was not "trying to get there" wherever there is that you are talking about. I was just stupidly eating a free meal but over did it and paid the price. oh believe me I don't want to feel this way again and I've not felt this way in months either and I do nto like it one bit! I cant wait to get back to my lchf woe tomorrow! infact when I got home I had the hwc with macadamia nuts just to try to feel normal again and get my body back to where it was though that may take a few days and I will have to be patient.

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No reactive hypo, because no hypo.

No, you shouldn't eat anything to raise your blood sugar in that case, that's just more gasoline on the fire you already started. Just relax. Cream and macadamia was a good choice.

I'm guessing your water needs went up during that time, in spite of less "output".

If you've been eating VLC, your liver glycogen gets depleted. When there is a sudden rush of glucose from digestion, those stores will be re-stocked within just a few hours. Glycogen is stored with 16 parts water. If you're watching very closely, you will observe:

1) an almost instantaneous weight gain usually around 4 or 5 pounds.
2) increased need for water and thirst
3) less urination in spite of increased water intake

Also, you may "miss" your body's call for more water and experience dehydration without knowing it. This could account for the way you felt. Remember, your body is stuffing nearly 5 pounds of water into your liver in order to store glycogen. That's a fairly serious change - maybe like a 2 or 3 hour intense workout without drinking?

Not specifically harmful, but this single act (or sometimes it takes a couple of them) can completely destroy all of your LC/HF efforts for the entire time period (weeks or even months) leading up to it. Unless you like being in an endless loop of failure, these "cheats" are definitely not worth it in the bigger scheme of things. For me, they are totally out of the question. I'd sooner stick a needle in my eye!

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Where is that needle because that is how I feel right now. You are right on all three accounts.

My weight was up 1.6 pounds, I was thirsty last night but I didn't want to drink much because I was going to bed soon but made up for it this morning and last night I felt the urge to p but nothing was coming out.
I was expecting my fasting to be high this morning but was pleasantly surprised with a 95 and no DP but only went up to 99. I sent straight back to my lchf breakfast and was so happy to eat that! My husband says next time we're in that situation that he is going to fix my plate lol I just want all this crap out of my system now!


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You would have been better off filling up on the ham and any vegetables there, and just realizing that you can't have the high-carb garbage, which you always fall back on. As smorgan said above, for most of us, those are totally out of the question.

Sigh ... oh well, whatta gonna do.

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I "ALLOWED" MYSELF this meal but ah well live and learn but I forgot to allow myself the guilt and the horrible feelings that came after eating it, didn't expect any of that!

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You would have been better off filling up on the ham and any vegetables there, and just realizing that you can't have the high-carb garbage, which you always fall back on. As smorgan said above, for most of us, those are totally out of the question.

Sigh ... oh well, whatta gonna do.

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I have all the willpower of a plastic baggie in the wind, and that ain't gonna change.

My levels, however, are pretty darn good. My secret? It ain't self-discipline, believe me! It's memory.

When confronted with a pile of once-loved carbs, I think back to the last time I goofed up. Bloats, gas, weight gain, hours of tests and worry, days of work to get back in line ... if need be, I think all the way back to pre-diagnosis. Talk about your appetite suppressants!

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Puppy, I don't want to make you angry, so please take this with the knowledge that I care about your health.

You say you planned to eat this way, and that you allowed yourself this meal. As Mr Morgan mentioned, you may have set yourself back weeks having to get back into ketosis again. Do you remember how hard it was for you to get into and maintain ketosis finally.

What concerns me most, is that you are behaving like I used to do. I had warnings as a pre diabetic. Fasting blood levels creeping up every year at the health fair, until one year I went from 115 fasting, to 159 the next year. Had I been smart, and not kept eating foolishly, maybe I could have fended off the diabetes from occurring.

You have gotten great advice from a lot of people on this board, and it is time to heed their warnings and quit playing games with developing diabetes and ramifications resulting from such.

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I was going to "allow" myself to eat off plan a little last night at my friend's house. Then when I stood there looking at the bowls of food I thought, no way, just can't do it in any large way. So what I did was take about 1/2 tsp of the sweet potato and 1 tsp of stuffing. They tasted wonderful, but eating any more than that was something I was just not going to do. Instead I had the brussels sprouts with butter, several ripe olives and game hen and was totally satisfied. My 2 hr pp was 85 so the "bites" didn't hurt me, but I wasn't going to risk a whole serving. Not worth getting kicked out of ketosis, high numbers and awakening the carb cravings again!

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grammaB, were you at my mother-in-law's house too? Your dinner sounds almost exactly the same as mine, except we had turkey instead of the game hen. I also added a small, fresh salad with olive oil dressing. It was delicious!

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I am not angry because I know you speak the truth. I am angry though at myself and working hard to get back into ketosis again. I've even ordered blood ketone strips. I've been a saintly eater today and as so happy to see such great numbers after meals like 88 that that is motivating! I am not going to allow myself junk like that again, no way! I know that others do but they do not come on here and admit it I guess this is like a confession board better I should just go to church instead.

I don't think I will have this problem again ava I haven't for a while either...I'm still somewhat in denial maybe but this guilt was more punishing then the food,


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Puppy, I don't want to make you angry, so please take this with the knowledge that I care about your health.

You say you planned to eat this way, and that you allowed yourself this meal. As Mr Morgan mentioned, you may have set yourself back weeks having to get back into ketosis again. Do you remember how hard it was for you to get into and maintain ketosis finally.

What concerns me most, is that you are behaving like I used to do. I had warnings as a pre diabetic. Fasting blood levels creeping up every year at the health fair, until one year I went from 115 fasting, to 159 the next year. Had I been smart, and not kept eating foolishly, maybe I could have fended off the diabetes from occurring.

You have gotten great advice from a lot of people on this board, and it is time to heed their warnings and quit playing games with developing diabetes and ramifications resulting from such.

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