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Old 02-02-2014, 21:54   #1
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is there hope for ed t2's?

here's what's been tried:

several different counselor's for
different periods of time at different locations
(due to moving around a lot)
several different medications at different times(metformin, antidepressants, tranquilizers)
hospitalized once
ed program with videos with dietician

this all took place be4 any t2 diagnosis

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What specific problems have you run into?

One thing I can say, in general, is that we need medical professionals in order to get a diagnosis and any needed prescriptions. Sadly, however, far too many professionals are unable to give vital lifestyle advice, which we also need.

Doctors are typically taught very little about nutrition, for example. Dietitians and nutritionists are typically taught to use a book, and to ignore their powers of observation. All too often, both groups are taught myths about diabetes.

As long as this situation continues in the mainstream, people with diabetes and other chronic conditions will need to depend on each other for this kind of guidance (and we will always need each other for support, even if professional knowledge improves).
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What specific problems have you run into?

One thing I can say, in general, is that we need medical professionals in order to get a diagnosis and any needed prescriptions. Sadly, however, far too many professionals are unable to give vital lifestyle advice, which we also need.

Doctors are typically taught very little about nutrition, for example. Dietitians and nutritionists are typically taught to use a book, and to ignore their powers of observation. All too often, both groups are taught myths about diabetes.

As long as this situation continues in the mainstream, people with diabetes and other chronic conditions will need to depend on each other for this kind of guidance (and we will always need each other for support, even if professional knowledge improves).
eating large amounts of restricted foods
due to the foods having to be restricted
and unable to tolerate any restricted foods
unless based on allergies/dislikes

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Do you have other restrictions besides having to reduce carbs due to diabetes?

Many of us are on multiple restrictions. If we knew more details about your restrictions, we may be able to help you tweak a few things.

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Do you have other restrictions besides having to reduce carbs due to diabetes?

Many of us are on multiple restrictions. If we knew more details about your restrictions, we may be able to help you tweak a few things.
forced restrictions: dairy except hard cheeses(due to many bathroom trips) and most carbs(pasta, bread, rice, buns)

chosen restrictions: fish by dislike, eggs by dislike,
meat by various reasons, most fats by dislike(dressings, margarine,
butter, oils, lards)

eat: hard cheese, nuts, vegetables, soups, chili-- aim of 100g a day
of carbs
(complete bags of chips, cheesies, popcorn, cookies- eat but wish I didn't)

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Your restrictions are fairly extensive. If possible, you may want to see if you can thin out the "dislike" category. Many of us have had to do this (or they've had to give it a try, anyway).

There are vegetarian diabetics on LCHF. Most, however, do eat both dairy and eggs. Vegan LCHF diabetics may exist, but that seems a real rough row to hoe. "Vegetarian low-carb" may be worth a Google search (even if you're not a full-on vegetarian).

Dairy, however, sounds like a physical intolerance of the type that shouldn't be messed with. This is a thread on low-carb without dairy. You may find some ideas here.

Here's one more, on LCHF without eggs, dairy soy or gluten.

If finances are an issue, you may find some ideas here. And here are some ideas on frugal fat.

The best way to ditch the bags of carbs, of course, is not to buy them. After awhile, one doesn't want them around any more. If you have someone around who buys them all the time (I do!), we may be able to help you come to terms with that.

Hope at least some of this helps. Hopefully others will come 'round soon with more ideas.

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MAGIC POTIONS:
Biotin --10,000mcg (for hair health)
B-complex
One-A-Day Women's 50+ Advantage
KyoDophilus (pro-biotic)
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Black Coffee - Unsweetened Iced Tea
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Trying to help you out here.

It sounds like you already have your mind made up what you want to eat. Unfortunately it sounds like what you cannot tolerate right now. It looks like the foods that will do you the most good, you by choice do not like.

Once you make the decision to eat healthy, things will work and most likely work very well. You will have to abandon your preconceived dislikes and learn to like and tolerate foods that will help you. If you look at the seriousness of the alternatives this is actually pretty easy.

Look around on this site and you'll find everything to help you. Good Luck!

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im pretty doomed then

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im pretty doomed then
NO your not. I used to gag walking by the cauliflower in the grocery store because i thought it was Yuk. Turned out not to be bad at all and I look forward to eating it now.

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Why are you doomed? Shalynne gave you very good advice on the changes that you could make, which would be of help. Did you read it? It's the sixth post down on this page. There's even links to threads specifically addressing the problems that you mentioned. What part of this has you doomed?

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