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Old 02-09-2014, 22:32   #1
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I was overseas for 6 months purchasing insulin mainly in Asia and had fantastic control of my sugars. I came back with a hbA1c of 6.6%, my best ever.

I came back to Sydney and had to purchased more Novorapid from my chemist-batch CK70792. I now go very high after eating carbohydrate. I used to take 2units per 15 grams of carbs, now I have to take about 3units.

I then purchased more Novorapid from a hospital and I'm having the same issue...unfortunately they are the exact same batch number.

Could this be the insulin? I don't understand whats wrong. I have lost all control of my sugars and I don't know what to do

I woke up at 5mmol this morning and took 5.5units for only two bits of toast. 3 hours later I am 13.9mmol. It's not my basal insulin, I have tested it.

In Sydney we have to purchase 25 pen vials at a time...so I now have 50 pen vials of Novorapid which I think doesn't work properly.

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In the morning, just eat 2 eggs and 2 slices of bacon with a salad if you need more sustenance. Or if you desire, a third egg. Test your sugar before, after an hour and then after two hours and see if it's more normal. I couldn't eat two bits of toast anytime but certainly not in the morning when I am most vulnerable to the carbs.

Let us know how your body reacts.

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The difference could literally be the toast, unless you made the bread in Asia and now. Another diabetic gave me some very good advice. Eat protein first, then carb (15 grams only) later, not with. Good luck.

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Oh, and I just had a thought. If it really is your insulin at fault, can't your chemist test it and refund your money? Or replace it?

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My mum doesn't want me to blame them because she has been going there for years and said they would say it wasn't their fault.

Is it possible for them to test it?

I was eating this bread 6 months ago because I left for overseas and didn't have this issue. It happens with any carbs...even oats.

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If the product is suspected as defective, returning it to a pharmacy for verification is not a reflection on the pharmacy - other than one of confidence in their fair mindedness to carry out the check fairly. I would certainly consider discussing it with them.

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My mum doesn't want me to blame them because she has been going there for years and said they would say it wasn't their fault.

Is it possible for them to test it?

I was eating this bread 6 months ago because I left for overseas and didn't have this issue. It happens with any carbs...even oats.
What is the possibility you have developed insulin resistance? Try as Patdart suggested, do zero cars for breakfast ad see if there is a difference. Have some glucose tabs handy if you go low.

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Wow it looks like im suffering from bad dawn phenomenon, unless it's the vietnamese coffee I started drinking (black).

Woke up at 4.7mmol at 6am and had 3 eggs and a spoonful of peanut butter plus black coffee. At 8:30am I am 13.5mmol . Could it be because I have no insulin in my system and the eggs + peanut butter had 6grams of carbs?

I wonder why my dawn phenomenon has come back after so many years of not having it anymore? Could it be my new weight lifting regime?

I even increased my levemir this morning from 9.5 units to 10.5units. I think tomorrow I will completely fast up until 12pm and see what happens.


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Have you ever tested peanut butter on its own? I can only have a small amount. If I eat more than that, my blood sugar gets out of control regardless of how few carbs it has.

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Hmm I didnt eat any peanut butter whilst I was overseas. I have gone a bit crazy on it since being back.

Looks like I have lots of testing to do this week!

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