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Old 03-19-2014, 22:10   #1
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will this work for weight loss and control?
I've been trying the low carb high fat and I did get use to some of the fats but I did gain almost 4 pounds now so I don't think this is going to work for me. I bought some needles today and a meter and I had some mcdonalds and I went recorded myself at 175 and I've learned that is not a good idea to be over 140 so now I feel bad.

my fats have been butter, coconut oil, fat hamburger, sour cream, dressings and I check for carbs too and none are over 3 and I have not been the best but I've been better than I was for carbs minus today and I don't know how I was before today with no testing kit.

so now I am thinking that this high fat is not a good choice for me either because of weight gain and because it still not good and still some nausea. I am thinking of trying this low carb, low fat and low protein to see how I fair with it because can it be any worse really? I just dunno so help please!

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Can you tell us how many carbs you are eating per meal, and per day? Are you keeping protein to a moderate amount, and fats high?

Some things to consider:

There are only three nutrients: carbs, protein and fat. One can't eat low on every one of them - that's called "starvation"

I know that if I eat a lot of nuts I gain weight. Nuts not only contain fat, but a fair amount of protein along with some carbs.

Eating more protein than the body needs for maintenance is counterproductive because that excess protein will be changed to glycogen by the liver and stored there to be released again as glucose into the bloodstream. Thereby raising BG.

It's a balancing act with food. While LCHF generally does cause weight loss, overdoing protein or (for me) nuts will stall or cause gain.

To address your comment about not feeling good - how long have you been doing LCHF? Sometimes it takes a week or two for the body to adjust to this new way of eating and to make the switch from getting fuel from glucose to using fats for fuel.

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What do you intend to eat if you're reducing all of the nutritional categories? There isn't anything else except carbs, protein and fats.

If you think it can't get any worse than LCHF, then you won't be surprised when you're constantly hungry on your new plan, and not losing weight either. When we starve our bodies, they convert to a survival mechanism whereby metabolism rates are lowered to rock bottom in order to conserve every possible nutrient in order to survive the famine. I suggest that low-carb/low-protein/low-fat is not a healthy way-of-eating at all, and it would definitely not be sustainable.




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well see that is why I am asking if it would work. I have not tried anything as of yet but this morning when I was cooking some eggs with butter and I thought of all that fat and calories in there but ate it anyways, and I had chicken with it from last night at a restaurant that I wanted to eat again that was so tasty, and I had these long green beans as well. I thought about the eggs without butter and the green beans without sour cream and how many calories and fats I would save there.

My thinking was plain eggs and plain meats and plain vegetables without adding all the fats/oils and that would be low carb because the vegetables are low carb, low fat because the meat would be regular meats like chicken breast and low protein or at least not added protein but just protein from the meats because I know that the chicken has a good amount of fats so I would not be adding extra butter or extra sour cream for fats. I did eat this since my last post but not sure how long ago that was now but I think at least a week that I tried this but even before that I tried the higher fats and it just seems my stomach is not going to accept much of it but some of it. How ever I am disappointed in the weight gain I didn't expect that plus my panties felt tighter around the legs so maybe gained some inches just in a week?

So how does my way of eating sound? real vegetables that are low carb so not like carrots, protein that is just regular in meats and just regular fats that come with the meats

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just another question or should I start a new thread?
I am anxious to take my fasting blood sugar in the morning. Is there anything I should avoid before bed to change it up or down? I wish I had all the information all of you have on here, I bet you all feel like broken records from posts like me.

And when I had the mcdonalds I was at 120 blood sugar and went to 175 and back down to 135 in two hours so does starting out high make it higher? I will learn this.

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Yes, starting out high makes it higher - carbs just pile on more points to wherever you start from. Your testing shows that the McDonald's meal spiked you 75 points - it would have done the same thing if you'd started at 80 and your spike would have gone 135.

Your morning fasting level is a combination of many things . . . much of it hinges on what you ate the day before and even two or three days before. It also depends on what time you test, like if you're up early your reading is likely to be lower. The longer you sleep in, the higher it's apt to go. Not eating doesn't keep it low, it actually increases the odds that it will go higher, because when we don't eat, our liver secretes glucose into our bloodstream to keep us from falling too low. This is the 'liver dump' you may see mentioned around here. Other things that can cause high readings are stress, infections, corticosteroid drugs like prednisone . . . the list goes on.

Don't feel bad about asking so many questions - diabetes and its management is a pretty complicated undertaking. What makes it easier is that LCHF isn't too complicated!




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I wish I had all the information all of you have on here, I bet you all feel like broken records from posts like me..
None of us were born with knowing about these things. We all had to learn about it. Thank goodness for forums so one CAN discuss these things and ask questions.

The folks on this forum are happy to share what they have learned in order to ease the frustration and confusion of those just beginning down this road. Won't be very long and you'll be answering questions, too.

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Eat the filling and just half the Mc bun next time and see if that's ok, if it's too high cut all of the bun and if you can afford it add a salad. I go to Mc because it's cheap, easy and a consistent product when I'm away from my preferred t/aways, So I wouldn't pay the extra for the salad.
here is a protein calc, don't go below it or it causes problems, cut the carb to lose weight and your sugar highs (I think it's more accurate if you put in the weight you should be for your height)
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One big problem with low-everything diets is ... bodies like to maintain the status quo. Pure calorie cuts across the board tend to provoke metabolisms to slooowww dooowwwn. This is why so many people go on one diet after another, only to lose weight quickly ... then re-gain more than they lost ... or, they may gain while dieting!

As for fats and tummies ... carbs must go down as fat goes up! Diabetics simply cannot digest carbs properly. When our systems try to digest both carbs and fats at the same time, they may revolt. Violently. Even if numbers are good.

(And yes, as a matter of fact, I do have deep knowledge about the above ... )

For me, added exercise has always been the missing component of an otherwise weight-healthy diet. Believe me, I'm not talking Olympian workouts or luxury gym memberships here (not that there's anything wrong with that). Just walking more, taking stairs, incorporating stretches into your day ... whatever's doable for you ... can make a lot of difference.

Most important, for diabetics, is to keep that glucose controlled. Highs, lows and roller-coasters will bring us down, long before extra poundage will.

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Eat the filling and just half the Mc bun next time and see if that's ok, if it's too high cut all of the bun and if you can afford it add a salad. I go to Mc because it's cheap, easy and a consistent product when I'm away from my preferred t/aways, So I wouldn't pay the extra for the salad.
here is a protein calc, don't go below it or it causes problems, cut the carb to lose weight and your sugar highs (I think it's more accurate if you put in the weight you should be for your height)
Protein Calculator | Meals.com
I ate half only of the bun but those fries!
I tried this calculator and it says I should eat 91 grams of protein, now if I find something that says how many carbs and how many fats to go along with the protein I shall be set! Not going to happen is it? I check my blood sugar a minute ago and I was at 88. I have not ate since the mcdonalds this afternoon so not sure that good or bad after that food that was about 4 hours ago when I ate it.

I tried to eat some more fats and used some sour cream with mayonnaise and I had them long green beans with some ground turkey all mixed it together like a mush but it all went down the same place. My husbands birthday was yesterday and we having a small cake this evening, maybe I need to make it a farewll piece of cake and start fresh tomorrow. This is really a second job I feel.

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